2024-25 Roster Thread #2: Midseasonnar

Hollywood Cannon

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More evidence that Olivier concussed Andrae last week. Perhaps Fantilli needs to have his bell rung as a pay back.
The Flyers can't continue to allow goons on other teams to rag doll their smaller players. Next it will be MM. It has to stop. Tit for tat. Retaliate against the opposition's better players not the end of the bench knuckle draggers such as Olivier.
How is that evidence at all?
 

Hollywood Cannon

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When Olivier hit him, I thought that the spotter would have tapped him for a concussion check. This could be a Tortorella decision but Andrae has missed the last two games since he was hit. He was playing well so there's no other sensible reason for him to miss any time.
John Tortorella is the coach. He said himself that he didn't believe that he was playing well.

It's as simple as that.
 

deadhead

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He singled out Frost b/c Frost has been centering Tippett and Michkov the last 10 games.
9 goals for the line, Frost has 2 goals, 1 primary assist. Michkov has been driving that line.
I think Torts wants Frost to drive that line more.

Couts line has 4 goals, Cates 3, Poehling 3.
 

VladDrag

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He singled out Frost b/c Frost has been centering Tippett and Michkov the last 10 games.
9 goals for the line, Frost has 2 goals, 1 primary assist. Michkov has been driving that line.
I think Torts wants Frost to drive that line more.

Couts line has 4 goals, Cates 3, Poehling 3.
In the past 10 games, Morgan Frost (at 5v5) has both the best xGF/60 and xGA/60. I know there's more that goes into it than this, but Frost has been pretty good over the last 10 games. He's one of the reasons why Tippett and Michkov have been able to play in the offensive zone more.

This is what I'm talking about when I say Torts doesn't value Frost's game. When asked a question about a different player, he took a direct shot at Frost. When asked a question directly about Frost last season, he answered it by talking positively about another player (Cates). He called Frost a toilet seat. He clearly does not like Frost's style of play.

Edit -- In this post I quoted, allude in this post Frost isn't playing well, but at 9:30 this morning you said he's having an excellent stretch. What are we even doing here?
 

Beef Invictus

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Don’t look now but Andrae continues to ride the pine.

It’s almost like that thing that people said about him only getting a chance was because of injuries.



You pretty obviously trade Seeler in this scenario. This isn't hard. This is why he obviously should have been traded last season.


Oh, and there is clearly nothing Frost can do at this point. The coach is irrational, stubborn, and a terrible evaluator.
 

ponder719

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You pretty obviously trade Seeler in this scenario. This isn't hard.

I'm OK with keeping Seeler (though he should be on the EJ contract, not his own), but hear me out:

York-Sanheim
Zamula-Andrae
Grans-Drysdale
Seeler

Risto and Johnson to elsewhere for assets. Acknowledge that there will be growing pains from having so many young defenders, but give them the opportunity and responsibility to grow into the roles.
 

Beef Invictus

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I'm OK with keeping Seeler (though he should be on the EJ contract, not his own), but hear me out:

York-Sanheim
Zamula-Andrae
Grans-Drysdale
Seeler

Risto and Johnson to elsewhere for assets. Acknowledge that there will be growing pains from having so many young defenders, but give them the opportunity and responsibility to grow into the roles.

This being the probable best arrangement since his extension and performance and career in general all combine to make Seeler a hard move now.
 

freakydallas13

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In the past 10 games, Morgan Frost (at 5v5) has both the best xGF/60 and xGA/60. I know there's more that goes into it than this, but Frost has been pretty good over the last 10 games. He's one of the reasons why Tippett and Michkov have been able to play in the offensive zone more.

This is what I'm talking about when I say Torts doesn't value Frost's game. When asked a question about a different player, he took a direct shot at Frost. When asked a question directly about Frost last season, he answered it by talking positively about another player (Cates). He called Frost a toilet seat. He clearly does not like Frost's style of play.

Edit -- In this post I quoted, allude in this post Frost isn't playing well, but at 9:30 this morning you said he's having an excellent stretch. What are we even doing here?
When you base your posts on defending everything this team does, your replies look as scattered as the team you're defending.
 

renberg

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Tortorella doesn’t have it in him to fully compliment any player. Even when he tries to praise someone, there’s always a dig at the end of it. It’s a personality flaw and one of the reasons that when TB had their Cup reunion he wasn’t invited.
 

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