2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

deadhead

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Tkachuk had 15 points in 27 games with Calgary. Marner has 50 points in 57 career games (including 14 in 11 two seasons ago), but we’re supposed to believe he stinks and can’t have a good run? I love a good playoff narrative. Some people would rather have Laughton than Pettersson, Panarin, and Marner.
I'd rather have Laughton on the Flyers than Marner or Panarin - because in 3 years, Laughton will be gone but the others will be declining with huge cap hits. It's not like they're good enough to make you competitive - if Marner can't carry Toronto to the 2nd rd, he's certainly not going to carry the Flyers.
 

Beef Invictus

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I'd rather have Laughton on the Flyers than Marner or Panarin - because in 3 years, Laughton will be gone but the others will be declining with huge cap hits. It's not like they're good enough to make you competitive - if Marner can't carry Toronto to the 2nd rd, he's certainly not going to carry the Flyers.

What
 

freakydallas13

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I'd rather have Laughton on the Flyers than Marner or Panarin
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deadhead

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"We need to rebuild."

No, let's add Marner and the 7x12M extension you'll have to give him
He'll be 28 when it starts, so in his 30s when this team is competitive.
And he's a RW. So he's not going to be a huge difference maker for this team. Except picking a few slots lower in the 2026 and 2027 drafts.

Now if he was a top center he might be worth it, even then you'd be paying top dollar for his 33-35 year old seasons. But center is a gapping hole, RW is not. Add a top center, and there will be huge synergies (Frost, Couts and Luchanko next year pushed down, wings will look better).

Whatever is killing Toronto in the POs, it doesn't seem to be goalies:
2023-24: -2.87 (GA - xGA)
2022-23: +0.69
2021-22: +0.61
2020-21: -1.64
2019-20: -1.07

5x5 xGF% PP - PK
2023-24: 47.69% 1-0 0-6 net -5
2022-23: 50.97% 8-0 0-8 net 0
2021-22: 50.18% 4-1 2-7 net -2
2020-21: 58.09% 3-1 0-3 net -1
2019-20: 53.79% 2-0 1-0 net 3

Can't blame STs except for last season.

Something is rotten in the team from Toronto.
 

prototypical4thliner

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I'd rather have Laughton on the Flyers than Marner or Panarin - because in 3 years, Laughton will be gone but the others will be declining with huge cap hits. It's not like they're good enough to make you competitive - if Marner can't carry Toronto to the 2nd rd, he's certainly not going to carry the Flyers.
I, uh, think the whole point is missed here.
 
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