2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

freakydallas13

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With Johansen's contract off the books at least for now, the Flyers don't have to start the season with Ellis on LTIR. Projected cap hit = $85,804,762

Is there a timeline to see a conclusion for this saga, or is it basically "it'll happen when it happens"?

In case anyone else was curious, that’s 11.65 million for the 4th line and the 2 spare forwards.
Built from the 4th line out, in the truest sense of the phrase.
 

ponder719

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The result was poor, but the Ellis trade was probably Chuck's best as a Flyer in terms of thought process I could both understand and agree with.

Absolutely this. Of all of Chuck's moves, this one had a rationale behind it that would, Ellis' health permitting, have let us take a significant step forward. It's a shame we bought damaged goods, but at least we bought low in terms of assets moved.
 

deadhead

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The result was poor, but the Ellis trade was probably Chuck's best as a Flyer in terms of thought process I could both understand and agree with.
The Ellis trade made sense as long as they were in "win now" mode.

The Giroux trade was also a first rate move, Tippett has been a good return, and Barkey and Edmonton's 2025 1st.

CF just couldn't figure out if he was coming or going, if he had followed the Giroux trade with a Risto trade he could have launched the rebuild a year early. Instead he doubles down with an overpriced contract and trades for TDA.

Or the importance of having a coherent strategy.
 

freakydallas13

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The Ellis trade made sense as long as they were in "win now" mode.

The Giroux trade was also a first rate move, Tippett has been a good return, and Barkey and Edmonton's 2025 1st.

CF just couldn't figure out if he was coming or going, if he had followed the Giroux trade with a Risto trade he could have launched the rebuild a year early. Instead he doubles down with an overpriced contract and trades for TDA.

Or the importance of having a coherent strategy.
The Giroux trade was a no brainer, not a lot of thought behind the idea he had to be moved. All he had to do was get the best return.

The Ellis trade actually took some thought and consideration. Moving on from a recent (ish) 2nd OA pick and a young defenceman to improve the d-core? Uncharacteristically bold of Fletcher. It's the kind of trade that could actually change the direction of a team, and for once the Flyers were trying to move on from players while they still carried some value.
 

blackjackmulligan

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The Ellis trade made sense as long as they were in "win now" mode.

The Giroux trade was also a first rate move, Tippett has been a good return, and Barkey and Edmonton's 2025 1st.

CF just couldn't figure out if he was coming or going, if he had followed the Giroux trade with a Risto trade he could have launched the rebuild a year early. Instead he doubles down with an overpriced contract and trades for TDA.

Or the importance of having a coherent strategy.
Wasn't Chucks fault.

That is so overrated. It is about NHL age not actual age to me. Plus if your young and have average talent, so what
 

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