2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

[Hollywood Cannon]

Guys, what's the best way to prepare and serve crow?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

They don’t have to trade anyone, Richard gets waived

Is he on a two way?

 

[Starat327]

Guys, what's the best way to prepare and serve crow?

Dont ask beef.

 

[GKJ]

Is he on a two way?

Doesn’t matter, he is a league minimum guy

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Think Luchanko is going down, reason for him not playing tonight is to avoid injury that would set back his development - always some AHL fool trying to make a name for himself.

Lycksell may stay, at 25 he doesn't need to play every day and has earned a spot.

Andrae is the 8th D-man, but at 22 needs to play everyday so he'll go back to LHV as the first call-up in case of injury.

Farabee - Couts - TK
Tippett - Frost - Michkov
Foerster - Cates - Brink
Laughton - Poehling - Hathaway

York - Sanheim
Seeler - Drysdale
Zamula - Risto

The shit you come up with is hysterical.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Good to hear he earned 9 games or less. Hope that motivates him in OHL this year.

He will be protected by the forwards. Defencemen and goaltenders get more exposed, but this should be a good thing for him as a forward.

Excited to watch him play in regular season although not expecting results (like Minten last year). If he does perform, that's gravy.

Cheers!

 

[Random Forest]

I do not think Luchanko should be on the opening roster, but that lineup is objectively the best 12 in terms of talent in the organization. Can quibble about Cates’s place on the depth chart, but they actually have as good a lineup as we could expect with this personnel for once.

 

[deadhead]

It would be stupid to keep Luchanko up, as an 18 year old, I don't think he's as good a center as Cates, so it doesn't help the team win this season.

Luchanko needs to play 20+ minutes in the CHL in every role, and work on his offensive skills.
In the NHL, he just won't get that opportunity, nor is he ready for it.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It would be stupid to keep Luchanko up, as an 18 year old, I don't think he's as good a center as Cates, so it doesn't help the team win this season.

Luchanko needs to play 20+ minutes in the CHL in every role, and work on his offensive skills.
In the NHL, he just won't get that opportunity, nor is he ready for it.

Agree, let's see what the Co-GM/coach thinks.

They may think he helps them win.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841841512247619722

Assuming health and hype all check out, that top six looks good. If these lines stick and Luchanko continues to play well the bottom six looks good as well. The defensive corps isn't great and goalies are obviously a huge question mark but honestly I think this team is going to be better than at least I expected.

 

[A1LeafNation]

It would be stupid to keep Luchanko up, as an 18 year old, I don't think he's as good a center as Cates, so it doesn't help the team win this season.

Luchanko needs to play 20+ minutes in the CHL in every role, and work on his offensive skills.
In the NHL, he just won't get that opportunity, nor is he ready for it.

Development isn't linear though, every prospect is different. I'm sure this coaching staff and management group have seen this in their decades in the NHL. Development is changing too. Look at how Carlsson was load managed last year. But the idea is what path gets Luchanko to play 82 NHL games in 2025-26....

Path A
70 OHL games and OHL playoffs

Path B
1 game per week in Oct/Nov
2 games per week in Dec/Jan
3 games per week in Feb/March
Ie. Slowly ramping him up to ~50 NHL games this year when the AHL isn't an option.

Both scenarios could work imo.

 

[flyersnorth]

They don’t have to trade anyone, Richard gets waived

Right, but that leaves 14 forwards if they keep Luchanko.

They can roll with that for the road trip or 9 game tryout, but beyond that, they would have to send Jett back or jet someone else out.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Assuming health and hype all check out, that top six looks good. If these lines stick and Luchanko continues to play well the bottom six looks good as well. The defensive corps isn't great and goalies are obviously a huge question mark but honestly I think this team is going to be better than at least I expected.

How does that top 6 look compared the team in the division?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Development isn't linear though, every prospect is different. I'm sure this coaching staff and management group have seen this in their decades in the NHL. Development is changing too. Look at how Carlsson was load managed last year. But the idea is what path gets Luchanko to play 82 NHL games in 2025-26....

Path A
70 OHL games and OHL playoffs

Path B
1 game per week in Oct/Nov
2 games per week in Dec/Jan
3 games per week in Feb/March
Ie. Slowly ramping him up to ~50 NHL games this year when the AHL isn't an option.

Both scenarios could work imo.

The opinion on Carlsson did not have to completely change based on a single training camp. Carlsson was a December birthday and a ~0.6 PPG guy in the SHL. Luchanko is a late August who was barely a top 50 PPG guy in the OHL on a below average but not terrible team.

There is no universe in which they were comparable prospects 3 months and zero RS/PO games after their draft day. You might as well bring up Bedard.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I was referring to the disrespect Cates is getting around here.

I expect he'll be the 3C, he's probably in this game with Hathaway to give the kids some support (and b/c LHV is also playing exhibition games now).

They were playing him at 3C in practice with Laughton at 4LW.

Ew. So, going into the year planning to have two 4th lines.


Flyers aren't beating the "scoring is bad" accusations, that's for sure

 

[A1LeafNation]

The opinion on Carlsson did not have to completely change based on a single training camp. Carlsson was a December birthday and a ~0.6 PPG guy in the SHL. Luchanko is a late August who was barely a top 50 PPG guy in the OHL on a below average but not terrible team.

There is no universe in which they were comparable prospects 3 months and zero RS/PO games after their draft day. You might as well bring up Bedard.

I'm not saying they are comparable prospects. The idea of the post above was that there could be multiple avenues to get a prospect ready for next season.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Probably another data point for how letting your head coach have major say in your process isn’t a good thing.

 

[freakydallas13]

Cates is a solid middle six forward

Citation needed.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Doesn’t matter, he is a league minimum guy

Figured

 

[Curufinwe]

Good to hear he earned 9 games or less. Hope that motivates him in OHL this year.

He will be protected by the forwards. Defencemen and goaltenders get more exposed, but this should be a good thing for him as a forward.

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[JojoTheWhale]

I'm not saying they are comparable prospects. The idea of the post above was that there could be multiple avenues to get a prospect ready for next season.

Fair enough. Hard agree on development not being linear and all of that.

But then why is Carlsson applicable to Luchanko's situation? Deady was specifically talking about him. You may say that we have to learn where that line actually is and fair enough again. But that feels like multiple significant levels down to me and a hell of a logical jump to make. If we were talking about Parekh, I can at least understand falling on either side. No one outside of the completely blinded by orange sect wanted this 6 weeks ago.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Fair enough. Hard agree on development not being linear and all of that.

But then why is Carlsson applicable to Luchanko's situation? Deady was specifically talking about him. You may say that we have to learn where that line actually is and fair enough again. But that feels like multiple significant levels down to me and a hell of a logical jump to make. If we were talking about Parekh, I can at least understand falling on either side. No one outside of the completely blinded by orange sect wanted this 6 weeks ago.

It's one of the first times we have seen it done where they load managed his games earlier in the season.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Ew. So, going into the year planning to have two 4th lines.


Flyers aren't beating the "scoring is bad" accusations, that's for sure

Look at the amount of money spent on that 4th line. Beyond dumb to have that much invested as team that has missed the playoffs what 4 years now?

 

[BernieParent]

Guys, what's the best way to prepare and serve crow?

Cold.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Look at the amount of money spent on that 4th line. Beyond dumb to have that much invested as team that has missed the playoffs what 4 years now?

They have plenty of prospects to churn through to save money and free it up to build the roster up top, which in turn forces talent down the lineup. It's not like they're at any stage where playing those guys in those spots would matter, either, and if anything they might find some surprises. Investing at the bottom like this when you aren't close to contending is dead-end money that keeps you from having the cap resources needed to get better.