GKJ
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They think he has a chance to stick, yes.Luchanko getting a low number almost implies they may try to run with him at the start of the year?
They think he has a chance to stick, yes.Luchanko getting a low number almost implies they may try to run with him at the start of the year?
Just pumping his tires giving him Rod's number.Luchanko getting a low number almost implies they may try to run with him at the start of the year?
Just pumping his tires giving him Rod's number.
Plus Holmgren as he pushed for it I heard.I mean, 17 is a tough one to live up to. Simmer and Rod. Both are f***ing gamers. I'm guessing #17 is meant for gamers? Who knows with Luchanko.
ROFL what!?! We had Ghost, and still could have Ghost and instead they paid assets to get rid of him and now you'll be happy if he ends up like him? After all the shit you've talked on Ghost. My god you sure are somethingI'll be happy if Drysdale ends up like Ghost, 3rd pair, PP1 QB. That's all I expect.
York, Sanheim, Bonk and a player to be named later (probably drafted this summer) as the top 4.
Drysdale, Mills, Sotheran, Andrae, McDonald bringing up the rear.
Knock Torts all you want, but name all the players who played better after they left him.
Dubois, Seth Jones, . . .
Panarin was an elite scorer in CBJ, just had better talent around him in NY.
(2.80 pp/60 his 2nd season in CBJ, then 3.28, 3.04, 2.53, 2.45, 2.86 in NY)
Karlsson the only one who comes to mind, mostly b/c he wasn't behind 2 other young centers in Vegas.
What will make or break the Flyers will be Briere's decisions over the next 12 months or so.
So you think they risk losing Zamula on waivers to have Andrae on the roster? Ginning and Attard have zero shot unless injuries. Again, you know this is a fact.I don't think numbers mean anything, Luchanko would have to be lights out in camp to make the team.
The camp battles will be between Eklind, Abols, Lycksell, and Brink at forward
And Zamula, Andrae, Attard and Ginning on defense.
11 forwards and 5 D-men are locks for the 18 starting spots.
Flyers don't have a reason to pick up waiver wire talent, they'll have plenty of those types of players in LHV. What they might be interested in is a team like Buffalo that has surplus quality young talent
Some guys getting new numbers, an indication of where they likely stand in Voorhees
Luchanko 17
Ginning 13
Lycksell 15
I hadn’t thought of that, but fair.Not sure I would have gave 13 this season.
Johnny might not have played here but they could have honored him by waiting a year to issue 13 on a sweater.
Very few waiver wire players have a high upside, there's a reason they're waived.So you think they risk losing Zamula on waivers to have Andrae on the roster? Ginning and Attard have zero shot unless injuries. Again, you know this is a fact.
Now I can see the coach falling in love with a guy like Abols if he shows his "moxie" and plays a Torts style game. This is where the CO-GM needs to step in and make the roster decision.
Yes, they do have a reason to pick up waiver wire guys if they are better or have higher upside than what they currently have. That is what rebuilding teams do. Or do you disagree with that concept.
If one of Eklund, Abols or Rizzo show that they can handle 3C, the other two go to LHV. No issue there. If Laughton goes down to LW, that creates a problem for the other wings. The Flyers should have moved out Laughton to avoid this problem. The same with Deslauriers. He's a mutt and will do nothing but get in the way of MM when he is on the ice.I don't think numbers mean anything, Luchanko would have to be lights out in camp to make the team.
The camp battles will be between Eklind, Abols, Lycksell, and Brink at forward
And Zamula, Andrae, Attard and Ginning on defense.
Very few waiver wire players have a high upside, there's a reason they're waived.
Teams pick these guys up to fill out a roster with low cost bottom pieces.
Can’t wait til they ruin yet another prospectThey think he has a chance to stick, yes.
Flyers don't need another bottom six or #6/#7 D-man.Notably, there is a difference between "high upside" and "higher upside than what they currently have."
I'm aware you're higher on our prospect pool than... well, just about anyone I've ever seen discuss the topic... but there almost certainly are ways for a bad team like the Flyers to cherry-pick an upside guy or two from the waiver wire.
Deslauriers is marginal, but he's going to be #13/#14.The problem is that the Flyers have created their own mess here by signing/keeping around guys that are no longer NHL grade and are blocking younger more talented players from getting their proper places on the roster.
Freaking Fletcher passed on $1.8m Martinook two years ago cause he was already full up with trash like ZMac and NicD.Notably, there is a difference between "high upside" and "higher upside than what they currently have."
I'm aware you're higher on our prospect pool than... well, just about anyone I've ever seen discuss the topic... but there almost certainly are ways for a bad team like the Flyers to cherry-pick an upside guy or two from the waiver wire.
Flyers don't need another bottom six or #6/#7 D-man.
They need top 6/top 4 guys. You don't find those guys on the waiver wire unless you're incredibly lucky (and even then, they often are marinated for a year or two)
I'm not worried about waiving a 24-25 year old prospect who fails to win a job on a 90 point team.
Briere will probably make a move or two during camp that will clear roster space if there is a logjam, but more likely no one will step up and force his hand.
But if Andrae does step up, they can keep Zamula as the 7th D-man, though if they waived him it's not a slam dunk he'd be claimed.
Deslauriers is marginal, but he's going to be #13/#14.
Johnson did a decent job last year xGF 52.92%, HDCF 58.02% as the 6th D-man, he'll be #7 this year.
They're not blocking anyone, you don't keep a legitimate prospect in the press box.
If they get average or better goalie play they're playoff competitive right now, if Hart isn't a slime, they would have had 95 points last year and made the playoffs.
They've replaced Atkinson with Michkov. Hart with Fedotov.
Replaced Walker with Drysdale/Risto.
Added Abols and Eklind and Rizzo for depth at no cost. Otherwise same team as last season.
Comes down to young players stepping up, but I think they see it as a win-win, if kids play well they make the playoffs, if they don't, they get high 1st rd pick and 6 picks in the top 40 or so.
If they were focused on making the playoffs this season, they would have upgraded Laughton at 3C, but I suspect Briere made calls but wouldn't pay the asking price, and wasn't interested in signing an older FA.
Sadly some are satisfied at being mediocre and take exception to those that would like more than that"Playoff competitive" means "average." It's not a feat. It should be the minimum baseline. That's why it's so urgently awful that they haven't managed it for years straight.
It's amazing how many fans will be happy just to make the playoffs in a league where HALF of the teams qualify."Playoff competitive" means "average." It's not a feat. It should be the minimum baseline. That's why it's so urgently awful that they haven't managed it for years straight.
Are teams always looking to improve?Flyers don't need another bottom six or #6/#7 D-man.
They need top 6/top 4 guys. You don't find those guys on the waiver wire unless you're incredibly lucky (and even then, they often are marinated for a year or two)
I'm not worried about waiving a 24-25 year old prospect who fails to win a job on a 90 point team.
Briere will probably make a move or two during camp that will clear roster space if there is a logjam, but more likely no one will step up and force his hand.
But if Andrae does step up, they can keep Zamula as the 7th D-man, though if they waived him it's not a slam dunk he'd be claimed.
Deslauriers is marginal, but he's going to be #13/#14.
Johnson did a decent job last year xGF 52.92%, HDCF 58.02% as the 6th D-man, he'll be #7 this year.
They're not blocking anyone, you don't keep a legitimate prospect in the press box.
Can't wait fo another decade of Hextall era "playoff competitive" Flyers."Playoff competitive" means "average." It's not a feat. It should be the minimum baseline. That's why it's so urgently awful that they haven't managed it for years straight.
I have no expectations for this team, which is why I see them between 80-95 points.Are teams always looking to improve?
Zamula 100% gets claimed if waived. Attard will not IMO.
EJ is blocking Attard/Ginning. They are not prospects any longer
Funny that they aren't paying JVR and Hayes yet still are in cap hell.I have no expectations for this team, which is why I see them between 80-95 points.
Too many things could go wrong, a lot of things could go right.
The difference is they're not paying JVR or Hayes or trading draft picks to be mediocre like the last seven years or so.
EJ is blocking no one. They'll probably carry 22, 14 forwards and 8 D-men,
Zamula is a LHD, EJ a RHD. So his issue will be Andrae.
Attard is funny, he's put up good metrics but they seem to lack confidence in him.
But that's why they have TC, to gauge if a prospect has improved enough to make a spot for him.
Deslauriers is a contract situation, if he didn't have two years left, he'd be gone.
Same with Risto, he's become a solid 3RHD but he's paid like a 3rd D-man.