Boston Bruins 2024-25 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion II

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RiverbottomChuck

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Dream scenario is to find a way to turn Ullmark + + into a pick high enough to draft Cayden Lindstrom (make him rehab for a year) then they land Drai next offseason

Drai
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Frederic
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That is a pretty great C group imo
 
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Necas is a good player, I would like him on the Bruins, but he will cost and he is a wing not a center. I am not trading Carlo for him either. There is some bad contracts in the NHL, Carlo is not one of them, his contract should be considered a bargain today, take advantage, you replace Carlo whomever that is will cost more and he might not be able to do the job Carlo has.

Do you use Carlo as a trade chip to get Necas or a top 6 center if you have a better top 4 defenseman like Montour signing in free agency? I would as this would improve the team significantly.
 

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Dream scenario is to find a way to turn Ullmark + + into a pick high enough to draft Cayden Lindstrom then they land Drai next offseason

Drai
Lindstrom
Frederic
Beecher
That is a pretty great C group imo
Cayden Lindstrom
Back injury and wrist injury had him out of MH tigers line for 4 months.
Sort of a buyer beware ala Gord Kluzak kind of pick.
 

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Cayden Lindstrom
Back injury and wrist injury had him out of MH tigers line for 4 months.
Sort of a buyer beware ala Gord Kluzak kind of pick.
Definitely a big risk there with him, I thought the most recent outlook was decent but who knows with back injuries. If he can become healthy while still young and pliable he could be a menace.
 

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This wasn’t the play I was talking about it was out at the blue line where is dipsy doed and almost broke the Swedes ankle

That Swede team had Hedman, Erik Karlsson, and Dahlin on defense and a good forward group and the Czechs murdered them - Pastrnak & Zacha looked very good with Palat
Yea remember that play. He was on his game tonight but he also had the benefit of not going up against the Swede's top defensive pairing as they were obviously going against Pasta and company, That's what would make his world class talent so impactful as a Bruin. Acquire him in a deal and sign lindholm, 2025 Cup Champs!
 
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Do you use Carlo as a trade chip to get Necas or a top 6 center if you have a better top 4 defenseman like Montour signing in free agency? I would as this would improve the team significantly.
No because Montour will cost more than Carlo, and he is older, I am also not sure he is better than Carlo, look at the hits and block shots, big edge to Carlo.
 

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I'd be really happy if some version of the Ullmark for Necas trade became a reality.
Some version of that could work. Sadly, absent actual trades, we are stuck in this hockey limbo where pundits of every variety quote second cousins of supposed insiders to tell us what trade is next. This will be followed by a short burst of shopping on 1 July, followed by disappointed fans and UFA players looking for work. Ugh. Hard to wait for October to get started again.
 
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Pending the fait accompli acquisitions here of free agents Jake Guentzel, Patrick Kane, and Chris Tanev, the Bruins still have a few interesting and difficult roster decisions to make regarding the personnel on hand as July 1 free agency approaches.

Per standard practice, general manager Don Sweeney offered zero in terms of specific roster moves when addressing the media Wednesday during the club’s annual postseason autopsy at TD Garden.

Sweeney, in command of the corner office since 2015, took a moment to underscore the point that we in the media frequently are incorrect about our assumptions and calculations regarding the team he manages within a cone of silence the envy of MI6 headquarters.

“Some guys are really wrong,” he emphasized, presumably referring to the winnowing group of reporters with the resources to cover the team on a regular basis, “but it doesn’t stop you from throwing it out there and that’s OK. It’s good for business overall. It’s good for hockey, in terms of drawing attention and eyes to it. So I understand.”

Super. We understand. And hooray for being wrong and offering up false flags, such as, say, that July 1 promises to deliver Guentzel, Kane, and Tanev to the Black-and-Gold’s front door. One, two, or three of those names could be, or should be, on Sweeney’s shopping list, but it’s important to emphasize we’re tossing out names here simply as guesswork among the ranks of the unwashed and understood.

Sweeney has every every right to say nothing about his roster plans, just as those who cover the beat have equal sway to conjure up names or salaries. All good for biz, I guess . . . unless you’re wrong so frequently that readers figure out you’re just slinging fiction as fact, hoping some of it sticks to the back of the net (precisely how the 1-for-16 Bruins power play operated vs. the Panthers).

So with the caveat here that we are offered less than used coffee grounds to guide us in how Sweeney and team president Cam Neely intend to divvy up the dollars, here’s a look at how we imagine they’ll set the roster in preparation of their July 1 free agent shopping:

FORWARDS

Certain to return (with cap hit) — David Pastrnak ($11.25 million), Brad Marchand ($6.125 million), Charlie Coyle ($5.25 million) Pavel Zacha ($4.75 million), Trent Frederic ($2.3 million), Morgan Geekie ($2 million), Johnny Beecher ($925,000), Matthew Poitras ($870,000), Jakub Lauko($787K), Justin Brazeau ($775,00).

Not asked back — James van Riemsdyk.

Undecided (with potential cap hit if brought back) — Jake DeBrusk ($5.25 million), Danton Heinen ($2 million), Jesper Boqvist ($1.1 million), Pat Maroon ($1million).

DeBrusk is the biggest undecided here. After another streaky, spotty regular season — in part because of injury — DeBrusk was the club’s top postseason producer (5-6–11). It’s quite possible he’s had his fill of working for the Bruins, admitting Sunday that he never thought he’d still be here without a contract extension in hand. As he’ll be 28 in October, he’s likely to see UFA offers of approximately six years/$36 million. Feels here like the Bruins won’t offer more than a couple of years at $5.25 million. If the open market delivers as expected, the last of the club’s Round 1 picks in 2015 looks like a goner.

Heinen and the speedy Boqvist should be easy keepers for salary levels suggested above. For $1 million, Maroon’s heft and swagger are worth having in the lineup, if that spare change remains on hand. Of the three, Boqvist, because of his work at center, could be filched away with an offer of $2 million, like the one that landed Geekie here a year ago as a UFA from Seattle.

Warning: Look for a number of parts up front to scramble significantly if Sweeney can land a big fish like, say, Guentzel or Sam Reinhart, or even Kane.

DEFENSEMEN

Certain to return (with cap hit) — Charlie McAvoy ($9.5 million), Hampus Lindholm ($6.5 million), Brandon Carlo ($4.1 million), Andrew Peeke ($2.75 million), Mason Lohrei ($925,00), Parker Wotherspoon ($850,000).

Unlikely to return — Kevin Shattenkirk, Matt Grzelcyk, Derek Forbort.

The issue weighing gorilla-like here on the “unlikely” group is that Sweeney needs to bring in a bona-fide top-four contributor. It would be a solid backliner, Forbort-like with bigger game, who can pair with McAvoy much of the time, then also ride with Carlo as circumstances dictate. That’s probably a $5 million-$6 million cap hit, using up a big chunk of what the other three earned last year.

GOALIES

Certain to return — Jeremy Swayman (RFA, projected $7.5 million cap hit).

Unlikely to return — Linus Ullmark.

To be promoted — Brandon Bussi (RFA, projected $900,000 cap hit).

Sweeney relaxed the cone of silence just slightly on this subject, hinting at a desire to keep Huggable Bros. Swayman and Ullmark on the payroll. It’s a grand idea. The Swayman-Ullmark partnership was the franchise cornerstone this past season. Swayman’s stellar work was the lone reason they made it out of Round 1 vs. the ever-disposable Leafs.

“We’re going to find a landing spot with Jeremy Swayman,” offered Sweeney. “And if we can make the math work, we’re going to have the [league’s] best tandem. If we can’t, we’re going to explore.”

Swayman rightly can seek $8 million a year — just look at the four guys in Ottawa making that coin next year (Tim Stutzle, Brady Tkachuk, Jake Sanderson, and Thomas Chabot). A franchise stopper is worth every penny of it. Swayman knows it and is eager to cash.

The guess here, reflected in the aforementioned $7.5 million, is that Swayman accepts a fraction below market to stay here, Ullmark (one year left with $5 million cap hit)
gets wheeled for a draft pick and cap relief, and Bussi moves up after two years in the minor.

This is not because it’s Heinen, I’ll say the same if it’s Boqvist (who I’ve included in earlier mock lineups because I thought he was signed thru next year)…but if they are sincere about improving, there is little reason to bring either guy back.

To be notably better they need 2 top 6 forwards and JDB or a replacement.

Which, makes the top 6 be;

Pasta, Marchand, Zacha, JDB/replacement, 2 UFA’s.

Third line: Frederic Coyle Geekie

Fourth line, which needs to be cheap:

Lauko, Beecher, Brazeau, Maroon/Muscle.

Of course if they do something big on the backend and trade a forward then things change, but again they will likely not need or be able to afford Heinen or Boqvist.
 
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Brandon Montour, Matt Roy, Tyler Myers? Only UFA right shot D's I would touch. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul but you then have to ask, what is easier to get, a young top 6 forward ir a top 4 RD?
Montour would be the target from my perspective. RH guy to add some offense from the blueline.
 

DKH

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You missed my point Danny boy!

How are you anyway?
Retirement is tiring;)

I miss a lot of things these days

Hope you are well

Looking forward to London and Moose Jaw in memorial cup

I’ve got Firkus on my sim team

Who should I watch on Knights
 

DKH

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Yea remember that play. He was on his game tonight but he also had the benefit of not going up against the Swede's top defensive pairing as they were obviously going against Pasta and company, That's what would make his world class talent so impactful as a Bruin. Acquire him in a deal and sign lindholm, 2025 Cup Champs!
He had 4 points today

Sweden had Dahlin on second pair but Czechs just ruined them

It was crazy

So I think Necas is a UFA next summer so hopefully Pastrnak and Zacha win the gold tomorrow and then do a ‘you gotta join us this or next summer - it’s a lovefest here’

Necas comments after were basically he plays better happy and comfortable and who has more fun then the Boston Bruins
 

DKH

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Why on earth are we looking to move Carlo at $4.125?!?
I’m so glad Steve Konroyd who was a very good long time nhl defenseman during one of his hosting shifts on nhl network went over how good Carlo is - really good

Unfortunately not perfect but really good

Daneyko who played the similar spot but with fighting also a fan of Carlo

PLD on a kids show with youth hockey players on ice was asked who the hardest D man to play he said Carlo due to skating size reach and positioning he’s a beast

Why is this guy always being traded

he needs to be extended
 

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I’m not trading Carlo for him but I am trading Ullmark +

Necas is a very skilled player - the Bruins need skilled players at that age no matter where he plays

Carlo is super underrated I don’t deal him because there are no Carlos in the system.
I'd move Carlo yesterday for him. Necas has all world elite skill and is what 25 ? Then I'd address the defense with a Montour , Sjkei, Peski or a Zadarov. I like Carlo, but some games he's all world, others he plays way to soft and makes senseless turnovers and with his history of concussions if he can bring in a talent like Necas its a no-brainer imo.
 
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Mr. Make-Believe

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Why on earth are we looking to move Carlo at $4.125?!?
Bevy of reasons. Not because I don’t like him. But because I think he has value, we need more offense from the defense and we cannot afford to have any more guys back there with ZERO puck moving ability in our own zone.

Carlo is a great (not good) shutdown d-man. A team will trade for him.
 

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Dream scenario is to find a way to turn Ullmark + + into a pick high enough to draft Cayden Lindstrom then they land Drai next offseason

Drai
Lindstrom
Frederic
Beecher
That is a pretty great C group imo
Cody Lindstrom read the other day where he was being compared to lindros as in Eric. Pretty high praise for a kid who's expected to go between 8-15. Ill be keeping an eye on him only because there's less and less of those type of players entering the league. Hell a mini-mini Lindros would be nice to see.
 

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Cody Lindstrom read the other day where he was being compared to lindros as in Eric. Pretty high praise for a kid who's expected to go between 8-15. Ill be keeping an eye on him only because there's less and less of those type of players entering the league. Hell a mini-mini Lindros would be nice to see.
I think the wrist injury dropped him a bit and once the back issue thing came out a lot of teams are hesitant. Sometimes big kids like that aren’t as durable as they seem due to so much growth so quickly, not his fault just unfortunate.
 
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