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2024-25 Roster…too soon?

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GIADF said:
Kurashev, despite being scratched for 15 games, has the worst +/- in the entire league. Found that kind of interesting and telling of just how bad he's been, even if it is a flawed stat.
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GIADF said:
Kurashev, despite being scratched for 15 games, has the worst +/- in the entire league. Found that kind of interesting and telling of just how bad he's been, even if it is a flawed stat.
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+/- is flawed in some ways but still useful in others. Like any one number on its own is not telling a full story. But when comparing one player's +/- to another's when they play on the same team can be very telling. Like when Duncan Keith was +30 in 2008 and nobody else on the team except Sharp at +23 was above +13 or something like that, that's a big deal.

I'd also say that if you have the worst +/- in the league, compound that with being scratched for 15 games, that is terrible no matter how flawed the stat might be.
 
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Hawkaholic said:
Why? Just play in the OHL.
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NCAA is an older league that likely challanges more physically than playing against 18/19 year olds he already was dominating as a 17 year old this season before getting hurt. Dominating 18/19 year olds even more as a year older doesn't push the development as much as playing 22/23 year olds in college.
 
u2wojo said:
NCAA is an older league that likely challanges more physically than playing against 18/19 year olds he already was dominating as a 17 year old this season before getting hurt. Dominating 18/19 year olds even more as a year older doesn't push the development as much as playing 22/23 year olds in college.
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I'd rather him play another year in the OHL and then play in the AHL the year after. He wasn't really dominating before he was hurt, and I dont think there's any proof that spending another year in the OHL hurts somebodies development, especially a young Dman.
 
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Hawkaholic said:
I'd rather him play another year in the OHL and then play in the AHL the year after. He wasn't really dominating before he was hurt, and I dont think there's any proof that spending another year in the OHL hurts somebodies development, especially a young Dman.
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Small sample size, but he is 3rd in the OHL for pts/game for D (only bested by guys that went #9 & #11 in the last draft that are 1.25-1.5 years older than Schaefer). I would say he was at a dominating level in the OHL and (again small sample size) looked like Canada's best player in his only game and the pre tourney exhibitions. I would rather have him pushed playing older better competition which college hockey is about to see a bump in level of competition with CHL players being eligible and coming next fall. Hopefully the Hawks luck into being able to pick him and we have something to debate next Summer.
 
u2wojo said:
Small sample size, but he is 3rd in the OHL for pts/game for D (only bested by guys that went #9 & #11 in the last draft that are 1.25-1.5 years older than Schaefer). I would say he was at a dominating level in the OHL and (again small sample size) looked like Canada's best player in his only game and the pre tourney exhibitions. I would rather have him pushed playing older better competition which college hockey is about to see a bump in level of competition with CHL players being eligible and coming next fall. Hopefully the Hawks luck into being able to pick him and we have something to debate next Summer.
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Still has work to be done defensively. Far more to the game than points. If he goes to college, you won't see him in the AHL for at least 2 extra years. It's not even an option.
 
Hawkaholic said:
Still has work to be done defensively. Far more to the game than points. If he goes to college, you won't see him in the AHL for at least 2 extra years. It's not even an option.
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Why would going to college prevent him from going to the AHL the following season? Spoiler alert....an under 20 player in the OHL can not go to the AHL, it is either NHL or OHL. If you want to see Schaefer in the AHL in his draft + 2 season, playing college hockey opens that up as an option where staying in the OHL does not.
 
u2wojo said:
Why would going to college prevent him from going to the AHL the following season? Spoiler alert....an under 20 player in the OHL can not go to the AHL, it is either NHL or OHL. If you want to see Schaefer in the AHL in his draft + 2 season, playing college hockey opens that up as an option where staying in the OHL does not.
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If he's going to College, you think he'll go for 1 year? Highly doubtful. He can go back to OHL next year and play in the AHL D+2.
 
Hawkaholic said:
If he's going to College, you think he'll go for 1 year? Highly doubtful. He can go back to OHL next year and play in the AHL D+2.
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Plenty of college D stay a single season, our very own Lev being a recent example. And no Schaefer can't play in the AHL in D+2 if he stays in the CHL because he will not be 20 years old (see Korchinski, Kevin).
 
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