2024-25 Roster…too soon?

[Blackhawkswincup]

He's bringing back more than EDM in a trade. Let's be real.

You never know

We got that shitstain Nylander for a promising 19 yr old Joker

Plus, Jackets GM didn't draft him and if there is a prospect out there, he really likes he may move Jiricek without issue to get him

 

[hockeydoug]

You never know

We got that shitstain Nylander for a promising 19 yr old Joker

Plus, Jackets GM didn't draft him and if there is a prospect out there, he really likes he may move Jiricek without issue to get him

I don't think a good trade is likely unless it's in a bigger deal as mentioned above.

With the benefit of hindsight, I think we can say only fans thought Joker was promising.

Looks like both teams knew they weren't going to have a place for either player in the near future at the time of the trade.

 

[GIADF]

You never know

We got that shitstain Nylander for a promising 19 yr old Joker

Plus, Jackets GM didn't draft him and if there is a prospect out there, he really likes he may move Jiricek without issue to get him

It's highly, highly unlikely the best offer they can get would be EDM. If they were interested

Nylander was a 2016 top 10 pick the year prior to Jokiharju was a late first in the 2017 draft. That was a fair deal for both sides at the time that wasn't exactly a home run for either side. Sure, Jokiharju is still playing, but he's incredibly replaceable.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I don't think a good trade is likely unless it's in a bigger deal as mentioned above.

With the benefit of hindsight, I think we can say only fans thought Joker was promising.

Looks like both teams knew they weren't going to have a place for either player in the near future at the time of the trade.

? Joker has been a mainstay in Buffalos lineup since the trade.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

? Joker has been a mainstay in Buffalos lineup since the trade.

Yeah, he has been mainstay in Sabres top 4 since trade

This year he is firmly entrenched as 2nd pairing/2nd PK defender averaging 18:10 TOI (16:12 ES - 1:46 SH)

 

[GIADF]

? Joker has been a mainstay in Buffalos lineup since the trade.

He's a very replaceable player.

And that's not even to say he's a bad player. He just doesn't bring anything that's all that hard to replace if you did move on from him. He's basically like a Maatta.

 

[Hawkaholic]

He's a very replaceable player.

And that's not even to say he's a bad player. He just doesn't bring anything that's all that hard to replace if you did move on from him. He's basically like a Maatta.

Never said he wasn't. But he's had a place in the Buffalo lineup since the trade, unlike what that other poster said.

 

[hockeydoug]

? Joker has been a mainstay in Buffalos lineup since the trade.

Yes, he's been there.

I would say best of the bad ideas on the 2nd pair and I'll add that if he's in the top 4 the Tatankas are not going anywhere. He doesn't defend that well and his offensive contributions are minimal. He's protected more than any other dman in the lineup and his possession numbers kind of suck relative to the deployment.

When Buffalo is ready to win a playoff series, he won't be there.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Yes, he's been there.

I would say best of the bad ideas on the 2nd pair and I'll add that if he's in the top 4 the Tatankas are not going anywhere. He doesn't defend that well and his offensive contributions are minimal. He's protected more than any other dman in the lineup and his possession numbers kind of suck relative to the deployment.

When Buffalo is ready to win a playoff series, he won't be there.

But that's not what you said.

 

[hockeydoug]

But that's not what you said.

I said I think only fans thought he was promising and both teams knew what they were trading away.

Jokiharju wouldn't have done anything useful in Chicago. I think it's far more likely that the scouts and managers got the evals right.

To be fair, I may have walked on glass to have him replace Megna or Tinordi last year.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I said I think only fans thought he was promising and both teams knew what they were trading away.

Jokiharju wouldn't have done anything useful in Chicago. I think it's far more likely that the scouts and managers got the evals right.

To be fair, I may have walked on glass to have him replace Megna or Tinordi last year.

No, you said neither team had them in their plans in the near future. Yet here we are 6 years later, and he is still in Buffalos lineup every night, while Nylander has been in the AHL almost ever since.

Buffalos evaluators were right, they got an every day Dman for an AHLer.