2024-25: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc.

[JojoTheWhale]

Why should I despair?
Either they turn it around and the young guys are back on track or they pick high.
It's win-win.

I'm sorry. I can't resist a polite oppurtinity this snarky.

Exactly. This is why the Sabres are in great shape.

 

[deadhead]

I'm sorry. I can't resist a polite oppurtinity this snarky.

Exactly. This is why the Sabres are in great shape.

Buffalo is sui generis, I think they've traded away more good players than the rest of the league combined.

The hardest part during a rebuild is being patient, NJ traded Zacha (#6) b/c they got tired of waiting, and he's doing fine in Boston. It's easy to get frustrated with players when you start slowly, but they're not trying to win anything, so there's no excuse to panic (the big part of announcing a rebuild is to take the pressure off your GM to do "something, anything" when you start losing).

Now there are times when it makes sense to trade my headache for your headache, I could see a Frost and Laughton for Cozens type deal, for example.

 

[mja]

Why should I despair?
Either they turn it around and the young guys are back on track or they pick high.
It's win-win.

Yay, more Cutter Gauthiers and Jett Lunchankos!

By the time this team figures it out, you'll be long dead and I'll be getting damned close to it.

 

[deadhead]

Yay, more Cutter Gauthiers and Jett Lunchankos!

By the time this team figures it out, you'll be long dead and I'll be getting damned close to it.

I'd love to land a few more Jetts, give me a high IQ, really fast forward group and all I need are a couple guys like Michkov and TK.

Even if you're incredibly lucky like NJ (#1 twice), you have to build a team, most of their key players are from trades (Meier, Markstrom, Haula, Cotter, Kovacevic) and older free agents (Hamilton (31), Palat (33), Noeson (31), Tatar (34), Dillon (34), Seigenthaler, Pesce. That's because they've missed on a number of top ten picks (Zacha #6, Holtz #7, McLeod #12, Smith #17).

If the Flyers were to tank, what are the odds they'd end up with the next Bedard v the next Kakko?

Anaheim is now in their 7th year of their playoff drought:
Zegras (#9), Drysdale (#6)/Gauthier, McTavish #3, Mintyukov #10, Carlsson #2, Sennecke #3.

So of course their best players are Terry #148, and Dostal G #85.

They also added a lot of veterans, Strome (31), Killorn (35), Vatrano (30), McGinn (30), Fabbri (29), Fowler (33), Dumoulin (33), Gudas (34).

Silly me, I thought rebuilding teams traded all their veterans, instead of adding them?

 

[mja]

I'd love to land a few more Jetts, give me a high IQ, really fast forward group and all I need are a couple guys like Michkov and TK.

Even if you're incredibly lucky like NJ (#1 twice), you have to build a team, most of their key players are from trades (Meier, Markstrom, Haula, Cotter, Kovacevic) and older free agents (Hamilton (31), Palat (33), Noeson (31), Tatar (34), Dillon (34), Seigenthaler, Pesce. That's because they've missed on a number of top ten picks (Zacha #6, Holtz #7, McLeod #12, Smith #17).

If the Flyers were to tank, what are the odds they'd end up with the next Bedard v the next Kakko?

Anaheim is now in their 7th year of their playoff drought:
Zegras (#9), Drysdale (#6)/Gauthier, McTavish #3, Mintyukov #10, Carlsson #2, Sennecke #3.

So of course their best players are Terry #148, and Dostal G #85.

They also added a lot of veterans, Strome (31), Killorn (35), Vatrano (30), McGinn (30), Fabbri (29), Fowler (33), Dumoulin (33), Gudas (34).

Silly me, I thought rebuilding teams traded all their veterans, instead of adding them?

Nope, not falling for this, I have better things to do with my time.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Jett. High IQ. Low PPG.

 

[freakydallas13]

I don't see him as a 1C, more of a two way 2C, a 40 point ES scorer who's above average defensively.
But we'll see, he's got raw tools, he can pass, needs to work on his shot.

It would help his development to play on a team with skilled wingers, and even better, a team that can go deep into the CHL playoffs.

I legitimately cannot reconcile how you say Zavragin is comparable to the best goalie in the world because of his KHL stats at a similar age, but not be worried about what Luchanko's lack of production projects him as. How many centers in their D+1 go back to the CHL with poor offensive results like Jeff's, and end up as second like centers? Give me the numbers on centers below a ppg in their D+1, and how often they turn into second line NHL centers. I would love to see them.

I know it's early, but if he doesn't produce (and produce a lot), it's folly to project him as anything more than a bottom 6 center at the NHL level based on his stats.

 

[volnoir]

Jett. High IQ. Low PPG.

And all while Buium is quietly at 10A in 8 games.

 

[deadhead]

I legitimately cannot reconcile how you say Zavragin is comparable to the best goalie in the world because of his KHL stats at a similar age, but not be worried about what Luchanko's lack of production projects him as. How many centers in their D+1 go back to the CHL with poor offensive results like Jeff's, and end up as second like centers? Give me the numbers on centers below a ppg in their D+1, and how often they turn into second line NHL centers. I would love to see them.

I know it's early, but if he doesn't produce (and produce a lot), it's folly to project him as anything more than a bottom 6 center at the NHL level based on his stats.

3 games? Really.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

And all while Buium is quietly at 10A in 8 games.

This may be their biggest regret (although they will never admit it).

 

[freakydallas13]

3 games? Really.

Did you even read the last paragraph I wrote?

Edit: You're the one asserting you see him as a future 2C, I'm just pointing out that if that's what you think he is then he has to show more than he has to this point in his CHL career.

 

[deadhead]

And all while Buium is quietly at 10A in 8 games.

He's on a team with 15 NHL draft picks.
Eric Pohlkamp, an undrafted 20 year D-man has 8g 4-5 9 for Denver.

 

[NYCFlyer]

This may be their biggest regret (although they will never admit it).

BIGGEST regret. Thats a bold statement considering all of the gaffes by the organization.
We have NO centers and York Drysdale Andrae and Bonk all developing young defensemen. After going to a few of the DU games he may be better than all of them but not by enough to make up the disaster at center.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

BIGGEST regret. Thats a bold statement considering all of the gaffes by the organization.
We have NO centers and York Drysdale Andrae and Bonk all developing young defensemen. After going to a few of the DU games he may be better than all of them but not by enough to make up the disaster at center.

He may, I stress may, be the best defenseman drafted in a few years. They have never had to opportunity to draft the best center.

 

[deadhead]

He may, I stress may, be the best defenseman drafted in a few years. They have never had to opportunity to draft the best center.

I think if Dickinson fell to them they would have taken him over Luchanko.
Think they were hoping Buium would go at #11.
Dickinson has the combination of size, speed and skill to be a #1, 25+ D-man.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Rebuilding teams shouldn’t draft for need in the first round.