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weastern bias

weastern bias

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Hodge said:
12 games is nothing. Bedard won with 68 GP last year.

Fun fact: Michkov has fewer 5v5 points than Celebrini and Smith.
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All that voters will care about is raw point totals and narratives, Bedard still led the league in rookie scoring

At this point Stankhoven, Michkov and Hutson are all going to be well ahead of Smith and Celebrini in the voters eyes, more points, the only thing that might work against Stankhoven is his age like when Couture should have won the Calder but got punished because Skinner was 18 years old

The Calder is voted by the writer's association, they're legitimately stupid, all they care about is the point totals and the narrative, none of them will ever filter 5-on-5 point totals, that would take some work, it's too hard for them
 
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Hodge said:
You guys are weird to be Sharks fans not rooting against Michkov, if only to juice Celebrini's Calder Trophy odds.
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Who cares what Michkov does? What's done is done. He's in the East, the Flyers are a mess and completely irrelevant to the Sharks both now and in the future. Sure, if he failed we wouldn't have to work so hard to defend the Smith pick, but that's a dumb reason to root for a teenager to fail. At the end of the day, a lot of elite players didn't win Calder trophies and I doubt it really mattered to them in the long term, Celebrini will be fine whether he wins it or not, and besides, Stankoven is going to win it anyway on account of being 22 years old by the end of the season instead of 18.
 
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Hodge

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weastern bias said:
All that voters will care about is raw point totals and narratives, Bedard still led the league in rookie scoring

At this point Stankhoven, Michkov and Hutson are all going to be well ahead of Smith and Celebrini in the voters eyes, more points, the only thing that might work against Stankhoven is his age like when Couture should have won the Calder but got punished because Skinner was 18 years old

The Calder is voted by the writer's association, they're legitimately stupid, all they care about is the point totals and the narrative, none of them will ever filter 5-on-5 point totals, that would take some work, it's too hard for them
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And Michkov won't have a chance to beat Celebrini's final point total if he keeps playing like shit and getting healthy scratched. That's why I posted "Michkov scratched lol" it wasn't that deep.
 
weastern bias

weastern bias

worst team in the league
Feb 3, 2012
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Hodge said:
And Michkov won't have a chance to beat Celebrini's final point total if he keeps playing like shit and getting healthy scratched. That's why I posted "Michkov scratched lol" it wasn't that deep.
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I'll wait until we have a real sample size of what Celebrini is as an NHL player before I project his totals, I'm absolutely a believer, but I am also a believer that this team is horseshit and he has very little help, I won't be shocked if he has an underwhelming end of season point total even if he continues to look like a stud on the ice since the team is constantly being caved in at even strength
 
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hotcabbagesoup

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Feb 18, 2009
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Tw1ster said:
I feel kinda bad for him but it’s also kind of funny that Karlsson is on another team headed for a massive rebuild
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It is very much his fault though. He plays a ton of minutes for that team and he looks chubbier/slower. I felt like he was very good retrieving pucks during his Sharks tenure but this year in Pitt it seems like he's slow to get to pucks and as a result has had to face contact more.
 
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Reading that thread, I agree with Kurz in both substance and style. He gave the major statistic that buttresses his point, and the reply rudely dismissed it. Rudeness can be met with rudenes
 
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tiburon12

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DG93 said:
Boy do I not miss this...it's funny though because he's not wrong
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Hodge said:
As usual, Kurz is speaking truth that fans don't want to hear. 1 5v5 point in 13 games is pathetic from a supposed franchise player. Celebrini now 3x as productive at 5v5 in 10 fewer games.
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OrrNumber4 said:
Reading that thread, I agree with Kurz in both substance and style. He gave the major statistic that buttresses his point, and the reply rudely dismissed it. Rudeness can be met with rudenes
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Kurz's problem was never really his "analysis" or his writing, it was how he communicated to to fans. Like in this case I agree with him and do appreciate countering rudeness with rudeness, but the real gold is that Flyers fans are waaaay grumpier and more assholic than we ever were so this makes for great entertainment.
 
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weastern bias

weastern bias

worst team in the league
Feb 3, 2012
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SJ
Tortorella literally used the word "development" in his media availability when talking about the scratch the first time

If it's no big deal for Smith to be scratched then it's the same deal for Michkov, this isn't news
 
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