Suntouchable13
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For Gimenez, .837 OPS in 2022 was an outlier but last year he was really bad .638 OPS. Can he at least get back to low 700s OPS? I think if he has another really weak year with the bat, he is near useless to us.
Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)
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Hellcat
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Something similar came to my mind that Vlad is trying to force Rogers to fire Lloyd and Harry. Maybe he holds a grudge from some of the shit management ahs said about him.
If Vlad stays and if that means the idiot twins get fired, I will personally build a Vlad statue in front of the Skydome.
dredeye
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My question for the thread is who would prefer to trade Vlad now or at the deadline than to see him get to free agency in the hopes we can re sign him. I'm of the mindset his value is very high right now and this is the ideal time to move him. Bo you have to hold and let him rebuild his value for the deadline regardless
I would do a poll but have no idea how to.
I would do a poll but have no idea how to.
phillipmike
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If someone blows you out of the water with an offer now, you take it.
But this is a team that can get a playoff spot, so without a great offer, you play it out until the deadline. You are still playing for a shot at a WS and/or seeing Vlad’s true intentions of wanting to stay or not. It’s possible no one offers the money he wants, has an off year and re-ups or is just leveraging other teams to get the best offer to stay in Toronto (Judge and Alonso).
Soto got at least 10% more than what the Jays were offering (he got $765 million and the Jays never got to the $700 million mark).
They tried to sign him, but if you get outbid by that much by multiple teams, then you didn't set the market. If they weren't involved, Soto would have gotten exactly what he got.
The Ohtani one is different, and they played a huge role in Ohtani getting what he got. But between deferrals and the unique nature of Ohtani as a player and marketing opportunity, I'm not convinced he sets a precedent for anyone else anyway.
Hopefully this is the year where team actually steals some bases.
Gimenez stole 30 last year and a bunch of guys could steal 20. We need to not tell guys not to steal because Vladdy's up.
Gimenez stole 30 last year and a bunch of guys could steal 20. We need to not tell guys not to steal because Vladdy's up.
jetsforever
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But at the time of their winter offer, the Jays were still actively bidding on Soto.
The Jays didnt talk to Vlad from that point until 2 weeks ago.
What Vlad's number is or was 2 weeks ago doesn't change the fact that the Jays put crazy money out for both guys BEFORE offering to Vlad.
Canada4Gold
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