Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[phillipmike]

Seems reasonable.

8 years is $30M per. 7 years is $35M per.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Seems reasonable.

8 years is $30M per. 7 years is $35M per.

I would not want to be the team that pays him 245.. I know am repeating myself.

200 max, over 8. Even then I feel he only has value for half of that term. He may price himself out and won't have a chair when the music stops.

 

[TMLeafer]

SHATKINS embarrassment to Toronto sports. Miss AA badly

Prove us all wrong and don't botch this with Vladdy and Bo. Make the trades or extend

This has botch job written all over it. Really hope I'm wrong.

 

[saska sault]

Just give Vlad what he wants.. 40, 45 per season. You can't pay someone more than Vlad an expect him to stay, there's no one available worth more than him. The fanbase needs it, management needs it and if it means you roll the dice this year and slowly invest your budget better going forward, so be it. More current fans will watch if Vlad is around regardless of what else happens.

 

[Kurtz]

This is the most in-depth summary I've seen of the recent Vladdy interview so far. A lot of interesting points:

See, this just boggles the mind. Anyone with half a brain had to have seen that they had no shot of outbidding the Mets+Yankees for Soto...and yet by offering him 700mil and then turning around and offering Vlad less than half of that number, they not only disrespected him but showed him that there was plenty of money in the treasure for him to increase his demands. And so he outright states that he did.

I don't want to get into hyperbole, but based on this bungle alone, these two might be the dumbest motherf***ers in the entire league.

 

[Anthrax442]

by chasing Shohai and Soto, they shot themselves in the foot. No Vladdy knows they will fork out the cash if they need to. SO now he wants more. and they better friggin pay it

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Yep do this ASAP if you have to. Before teams have filled out.

Looking at teams with the best prospects who also might be looking to win right now:

Dodgers: Rushing + De Paula + Ferris/Hope

Phillies: Bohm + Crawford + Painter

Mariners: Kirby + Montes + Arroyo

Mets: Sproat + Mauricio + Acuna + Tong

 

[jetsforever]

Remember how disappointing it was when we only signed Justin Turner last year?

Well we might not even sign a Justin Turner this year.

Maybe we can sign the Justin Turner again

 

[Puckstuff]

Maybe we can sign the Justin Turner again

Maybe we could get Brandon Belt!?

Or trade for IKF again.

I know we need a bat but if we have some extra defense on the bench it could really help

 

[WeThreeKings]

They were saying on Overdrive that the prevailing message from FAs is they have no interest in signing with the Jays while Vladdy is unsigned.

It makes sense that they wouldn't sign a long term deal if in one season you are staring down the barrel of a rebuild.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Seems reasonable.

8 years is $30M per. 7 years is $35M per.

Yikes. Run away, run far away from that negotiation table.

 

[GoonieFace]

Just wondering if the same posters that were calling Vladdy fat and lazy last May are the same ones complaining that he hasn’t been offered $500 million.

This managment group has completely botched the Vladdy and Bo situation.

 

[Cloned]

Just wondering if the same posters that were calling Vladdy fat and lazy last May are the same ones complaining that he hasn’t been offered $500 million.

This managment group has completely botched the Vladdy and Bo situation.

They’ve botched more than that and using hindsight the red flags were all there. Some people saw them earlier than others but at least we are all on the same page now mostly.

Hiring Montoyo then sticking with him for far too long.

Signing guys like Roark and Anderson.

Botching the Donaldson situation by waiting too long to trade him.

The drafting in general.

Multiple underwhelming trade deadlines including one where their big acquisition was Whitt Merrifield.

Shortsighted moves to bolster the defense at the expense of offense. Teo for Swanson. IKF.

Not firing Atkins, twice.

Years from now they will be used as an example of how to completely botch a rebuild.

 

[GreytWun]

As some here would say “there’s still time”

 

[CapspaceKiller]

I dare the Blue Jays to acquire someone who can hit the ball.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[LaP]

I can't believe they'll let Atkins trade Vlad it's crazy.

 

[Dough72]

15 year contract will end up worse than Springer's but for a decade.

 

[Zero1]

Just wondering if the same posters that were calling Vladdy fat and lazy last May are the same ones complaining that he hasn’t been offered $500 million.

This managment group has completely botched the Vladdy and Bo situation.

Vladdy isn’t worth $500 mill. The contract probably would be a boat anchor half way through it.

At this point you really have to look at trading him.

 

[The Iceman]

Team is rounding into form.

Need a top 3 SP
3 solid RPs
A catcher
Two middle of the order sticks. One plays 3rd. The other a corner OF.

And then fill out the garbage minor league system with som depth guys that can help if needed.

Pretty easy to see the guys running the team are morons.
The only path to respectability is overpaying FAs.

 

[Amadeus]

The masterclass of incompetence displayed by this management group has left me utterly shocked that they haven't been fired yet..

1st, they fail to lock up their very own and basically take them to free agency, and in that process they show interest in the top free agents where its reported they're willing to shatter their previous multi-year contracts.

They didn't get any of those free agents and every year their roster has deteriorated big time.

I can't stand any one associated with this team's management group, coaching staff included. They need to be fired together!

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

As some here would say “there’s still time”

Don't worry Jays Interested

 

[MS]

Just give Vlad what he wants.. 40, 45 per season. You can't pay someone more than Vlad an expect him to stay, there's no one available worth more than him. The fanbase needs it, management needs it and if it means you roll the dice this year and slowly invest your budget better going forward, so be it. More current fans will watch if Vlad is around regardless of what else happens.

Yup.

This isn't just a thing where you can measure the on-field impact of Vladdy and then be worried about overpaying.

This is the hugely popular (especially amongst kids and families) home-grown face of the franchise and if you lose him for peanuts at age 25 the damage to the brand, the damage to customer confidence, the damage to the status of the franchise goes way beyond any 'overpayment'.

You pay what it takes and get it the f*** done. It's incredible it's gotten to this point and he should have been locked up for 10+ years 2-3 years ago already.

 

[Beaumaris]

My feelings also.

I have a feeling that Shatkins will screw up Vladdy signing.

 

[shortfuze]

They’ve botched more than that and using hindsight the red flags were all there. Some people saw them earlier than others but at least we are all on the same page now mostly.

Hiring Montoyo then sticking with him for far too long.

Signing guys like Roark and Anderson.

Botching the Donaldson situation by waiting too long to trade him.

The drafting in general.

Multiple underwhelming trade deadlines including one where their big acquisition was Whitt Merrifield.

Shortsighted moves to bolster the defense at the expense of offense. Teo for Swanson. IKF.

Not firing Atkins, twice.

Years from now they will be used as an example of how to completely botch a rebuild.

You should really be a GM. Lol