Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Dr.Funk]

 

[phillipmike]

 

[phillipmike]

Dave Winfield has posted on instagram that Rickey Henderson has passed away.

 

[tmlfan98]

I see them a little differently. BNS and Shi seem to poor cold water on all the rumors. They’re the one’s telling us there’s no budget left, while the US scoop breakers insist we’re throwing money around at anyone that’ll take it. If the team is controlling the narrative with them it’s not to appease the fan base, it’s to temper expectations.

I think the truth of what’s happening is probably somewhere in between. The Jays have money to spend, but are sticking to their valuations and waiting for the market to come to them. Honestly that’s probably the best approach, especially long term. That said, it sucks for the fan base that desperately wants a big move (myself included).

Ultimately the MLB offseason is long and slow to develop, and we probably shouldn’t judge until it gets close to Spring Training. For me personally that’s going to be difficult, as the frustration grows, particularly when pieces that might’ve helped dropping off the board. Still lots of times and lots of players that can help.

Responding specifically to the bolded, this has been my guess as to why the Sportsnet beat guys have been talking like this, since before the Jays even spent their first dollar of the offseason.

The team IMO is trying to trick the casuals into being impressed with whatever offseason they end up having by putting a "we don't have that much to spend" narrative out there, so that when they inevitably spend more than that, they think that's going to trick casuals into being more impressed with the offseason because "wow the team spent way more than I thought!."

There is no hard evidence behind this obviously, but it's pretty apparent by reading between the lines, and not being willfully ignorant about the complex relationship (coverage wise) between the Jays and Sportsnet under 1 owner.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Responding specifically to the bolded, this has been my guess as to why the Sportsnet beat guys have been talking like this, since before the Jays even spent their first dollar of the offseason.

The team IMO is trying to trick the casuals into being impressed with whatever offseason they end up having by putting a "we don't have that much to spend" narrative out there, so that when they inevitably spend more than that, they think that's going to trick casuals into being more impressed with the offseason because "wow the team spent way more than I thought!."

There is no hard evidence behind this obviously, but it's pretty apparent by reading between the lines, and not being willfully ignorant about the complex relationship (coverage wise) between the Jays and Sportsnet under 1 owner.

And yet they supposedly offer over $600M for Soto. Thats what I can't get.

I know he may not want to have come to Canada and NY probably appealed to him more. But did the Jays even have atleast some interest?

Dave Winfield has posted on instagram that Rickey Henderson has passed away.

Oh my goodness.

Just tried to find anything to confirm and found only this interesting comment:

All I can add is that he was supposed to be at this autograph show a few weeks ago and cancelled due to illness. (Event link below.) Obviously doesn’t mean this news is true, but not a good sign…

Sports Corner Signings – Tampa Collectors Expo SHOW

 

[cyris]

Dave Winfield has posted on instagram that Rickey Henderson has passed away.

Coming to say this. Sad news if true. Rest in peace Rickey

 

[Dr.Funk]

I know he may not want to have come to Canada and NY probably appealed to him more. But did the Jays even have atleast some interest?

Hopefully not. Goldschmidt is completely cooked.

 

[Discoverer]

Hopefully not. Goldschmidt is completely cooked.

Yeah, I had no interest in Bellinger unless he came at a steep discount (he didn't for the Yankees) and Goldschmidt would have been something like Plan D in terms of improving the offense.

I liked the Fried signing (though not sure about the contract) and the Williams move for them. But I think the plan on offense is very obviously "Add underwhelming left-handed bats and hope they can take advantage of the joke stadium".

 

[habamillions]

Now they will get gold to try and lure arenado to go to ny. But will have to offer more then stroman

 

[jetsforever]

How are the Yankees seemingly getting everyone?! They already made the WS, then lost one pretty good guy and added about 10 replacements.

And now Goldschmidt too?!

 

[Cloned]

I didn’t think it was possible but the Jays might end up having a worse offseason than last year.

 

[Puckstuff]

Goldschmidt could be a really nice buy-low for the Yankees but it obviously carries some risk. One of the best hitters of the last decade... If there's anything left in the tank, the Yankees could have a nice bat here.

 

[GreytWun]

Goldschmidt could be a really nice buy-low for the Yankees but it obviously carries some risk. One of the best hitters of the last decade... If there's anything left in the tank, the Yankees could have a nice bat here.

Yep if he produces anything close to his 2023 season this is a decent pickup for them.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Now they will get gold to try and lure arenado to go to ny. But will have to offer more then stroman

I'd love to see the Yankees get Arenado. Surround Judge with mediocre and/or declining aging players.

 

[habamillions]

Ye

I'd love to see the Yankees get Arenado. Surround Judge with mediocre and/or declining aging players.

Yeah as it stands now goldy 1st, bellinger center amd judge right field.

 

[PanniniClaus]

RIP Rickey Henderson. Was an impactful Jay.

 

[Blitzkrug]

The Yankees were so bad at 1B last year that even Goldschmidt's 2024 would be an upgrade there.

 

[cyris]

RIP Rickey Henderson. Was an impactful Jay.

Was the man standing on 2nd when Joe walked em off.

 

[trellaine201]

Rumor is pneumonia. Obviously not confirmed.

 

[mikeyz]

Losers make excuses and winners make it happen. And that’s why the Yankees are winners and the Blue Jays are losers.

I didn’t think it was possible but the Jays might end up having a worse offseason than last year.

If Giminez is going to be their top off-season acquisition, then they certainly will be worse than last year.

 

[hoglund]

RIP Rickey Henderson. Was an impactful Jay.

How did he die?

 

[PanniniClaus]

How did he die?

Uncertain

 

[MarMarSab3]

Uncertain

Pneumonia

 

[PanniniClaus]

Pneumonia

Brutal.

 

[GoonieFace]

RIP Ricky, far too young.