Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[cyris]

Every pitching prospect we have…..

 

[dredeye]

they really need to look at our system because they are destroying arms. They need to overhaul the training department in our lower levels.

 

[Squiffy]

they really need to look at our system because they are destroying arms. They need to overhaul the training department in our lower levels.

Fire the front office.

 

[The Iceman]

Fire the front office.

For every reason imaginable.
Top/only MLB ready 2 prospects got fried last year.
Team was horrible with a record payroll.
Agents floating feedback that the team is a joke.
Pitching staff overpaid and aging.
Top 2 players walking to free agency.
No internal help for the big league roster.

I could go on….

 

[aingefan]

The pitching injuries has gotta get fixed somehow. It’s gotta be an anomaly of bad luck. But it’s gotta get looked at - so many pitchers in one calendar year.
Brock already missed most of 24 already, then was great in the AFL.
One of the few relief prospects who have legit late inning profiles. Drag for him and the org.

 

[Amadeus]

sounds like he’s Padres bound based on speculation from media personnel

 

[tmlfan98]

I think the Jays chances are actually being slept on here, and have been the whole time. The Jays are industry leaders on the splitter, and this is one of Sasaki's primary weapons. The splitter's rep for harming pitchers has made teams (for the most part) avoid it for a long time.

But the Jays can work with him better than any other team regarding how to better harness his splitter, make adjustments to the pitch, and throw it safely. Plus one of the things we know about what Sasaki is looking for in his team, is pitching development.

Having said all that, I still think he's going to sign with the Padres, but I also think reports are going to come out after that it was the Jays who were the runner-up, not the Dodgers.

 

[Vector]

sounds like he’s Padres bound based on speculation from media personnel

I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't the Padres. He has a close relationship with Darvish.

 

[MK78]

There's no denying the fact that proximity to Japan is also a huge factor.

 

[rojac]

Meh, there are plenty of people that would would call you pathetic for having 13 thousand posts on a hockey message board too. Maybe best to keep those kind of judgements to yourself.

Did I ever say I was not pathetic?

 

[rojac]

Every pitching prospect we have…..

Does anybody have any statistics one how injuries to Blue Jays prospects compare to other organizations?

 

[Woodman19]

If anything it's probably us consciously prioritizing things like spin rates over mechanics.

 

[aingefan]

Does anybody have any statistics one how injuries to Blue Jays prospects compare to other organizations?

I don’t have any statistics, just recollection about the topic being discussed on Blair and Barker last year, I think with some prospect analyst.
Last year was definitely an anomaly for the organization, meaning years prior there was nothing above industry average.
But damn, last year was like an epidemic….premium guys, developmental guys, fringe kinda guys, up and down the levels.
If you can find a silver lining, there’ll be a nice boon of players back into the system during the second half of the season?

 

[phillipmike]

Does anybody have any statistics one how injuries to Blue Jays prospects compare to other organizations?

Not giving the Jays an out but arm injuries are common in baseball. Dodgers are seen to have the best development system and this is what I wrote in August;

“I know we complain about our training staff, but look at the dodgers pitching injuries over the last few years. All the below have had elbow injuries;

Kershaw
Yamamoto
Glasnow
Buehler
May
Gonsolin

River Ryan
Nick Frasso

And that’s just elbow injuries. There is Paxton, Syndergaard, Graterol, Treinin, Hudson etc.

And that’s just off the top of my head”

Sasaki has had 2 shoulder/arm injuries already and he is only 23.

 

[phillipmike]

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Robert Murray on the Jays;

if they go to vlad and offer something in the mid-high 400s maybe that gives him something to think

skeptical that they will extend vlad

the bregman thing with the red sox is them waiting the market and not believing he signs with the tigers etc

does not know if anything is close yet on a hitter

does not think Santander is getting the deal he wanted

he and alonso are likely getting short term contracts, higher AAV

the Angels are the team that is the biggest threat for Santander

on hoffman, he originally had a deal with the braves

they attempted to re-negotiate his deal, did not agree to terms

despite 2 of those teams flagging those physicals they were still trying to get him

burnes was a family consideration more than anything else at all

 

[phillipmike]

Interesting, teammate of Roki in 2021. Say what you will about the front office, but putting in years of work to get this far with Roki is due credit.

 

[Woodman19]

Interesting, teammate of Roki in 2021. Say what you will about the front office, but putting in years of work to get this far with Roki is due credit.

Agreed, this is the most believable 2nd place finish yet.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Wake me up after he signs with the Dodgers or Padres. Just resign Vladdy.

 

[cyris]

Bridesmaids again lol ?

 

[trellaine201]

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Dodgers burning through more green in LA than the wild fires.

 

[saska sault]

He's going to the Dodgers. Let's be real. Ohtani, Yamamoto... unlimited endorsement money and knows LA will pony up the big cheque in a few years. I can't see a real chance for Toronto if he is giving San Diego and LA multiple meetings also... not much Toronto can offer on and off the field in comparison.

 

[landy92mack29]

LA bringing in the Stars seems like desperation tbh. I think he''ll go to the Padres as he isn't a fan of media and wants to be the guy which he can be in SD. Still don't expect the Jays to get him either way

 

[Dr.Funk]

Unless I'm confusing him with someone else but I thought very early on in the process it was requested that teams do not bring players to the meetings

 

[Senator Stanley]

Unless I'm confusing him with someone else but I thought very early on in the process it was requested that teams do not bring players to the meetings

You're not confused. That was a request/rule his agent had made for the first round of meetings, but it sounds like that's no longer the case for these final visits.

This is what Rosenthal wrote today, "...the Dodgers’ meeting would give them something not afforded at the Wasserman office meetings (but permitted in his city tours with the Blue Jays and Padres): the presence of players to bolster the team’s pitch, sources said."

Dodgers to get second meeting with Roki Sasaki: Sources

Sasaki has recently completed city tours to both Toronto and San Diego.

www.nytimes.com