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StreetHawk

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slow black Friday most firings already took place in season
With Dabboll being announced safe, I can only see LV and Dal moving off their guy.

The rest, I just don't see it. Ten, new HC who gave it a shot with Levis. Stefanski, when your starting QB sucks, kind of limited. Should not have moved off Flacco. Taylor in Cincy, the run at the end saved him plus he put the blame on his DC and fired him.

Indy, think the whole organization needs to own the Richardson pick. Plus, when you draft someone that raw, hard to balance patience for his development vs the rest of the roster that doesn't want to wait around for a kid who was immature or naive to the responsibility of being an NFL QB.

Arizona, still a work in progress. But, year 3 upcoming for Gannon is huge.
 

Big Poppa Puck

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Sunday is why JJ McCarthy should and will be the Vikings QB next year. Regardless of what happens Monday.

If the coach can have this success with Darnold, why not give him the shot with his handpicked guy on a rookie contract?


Also this is the Vikings so if they do trade him he's guaranteed to become the next Josh Allen, and Darnold will turn back into a pumpkin.

Only the Vikings could win 14 games and not win the division.
 

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Sunday is why JJ McCarthy should and will be the Vikings QB next year. Regardless of what happens Monday.

If the coach can have this success with Darnold, why not give him the shot with his handpicked guy on a rookie contract?


Also this is the Vikings so if they do trade him he's guaranteed to become the next Josh Allen, and Darnold will turn back into a pumpkin.

Only the Vikings could win 14 games and not win the division.
They have a dilemma in that it’s something they need to sell to the players. The simplest solution seems to be keeping both as inevitably, Darnold probably gets hurt at some point next year, but the injury hasn’t given them a chance to prove that they were right.

Darnold at 27 though, there’s still a reasonable chance that he can still be the guy. I would keep both and see who emerges.
 
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StreetHawk

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They have a dilemma in that it’s something they need to sell to the players. The simplest solution seems to be keeping both as inevitably, Darnold probably gets hurt at some point next year, but the injury hasn’t given them a chance to prove that they were right.

Darnold at 27 though, there’s still a reasonable chance that he can still be the guy. I would keep both and see who emerges.
Darnold with the franchise tag, would count $41 mill against the cap. So, they need to accommodate that. Which they can figure out.

But, you can't tag him again, as a 20% bump is pushing him to like $50 mill in 2026.

Might take a step back a bit in 2025, but have to think big picture. Not fair to Harrison Smith who is near the end, or some others as well, but big picture, should trust KOC to develop him. Unless, they have issues with what they have seen of him in the building (learning the offense or physically).
 

PeteWorrell

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Would Darnold accept being tagged? This might be his big break to earn a fat contract after years of being seen as a bust who was a back up at best.
 

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Would Darnold accept being tagged? This might be his big break to earn a fat contract after years of being seen as a bust who was a back up at best.
Then Minny turns to JJ McCarthy. If you have no other option the player won’t accept the tag. If you do, they likely will.
 

PeteWorrell

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Naw, Darnold with this season would want to cash in the bag now. He’s not gonna get another big money contract like this down the road.
That's what i was thinking. It's like when Brock Osweiler looked decent in relief of an injured Peyton Manning and then Houston came in with a big contract offer. He would have been crazy to turn that down even if he never lived up to it.
 

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They have a dilemma in that it’s something they need to sell to the players. The simplest solution seems to be keeping both as inevitably, Darnold probably gets hurt at some point next year, but the injury hasn’t given them a chance to prove that they were right.

Darnold at 27 though, there’s still a reasonable chance that he can still be the guy. I would keep both and see who emerges.

It's not hard to sell the players, you could have said the same thing about letting Cousins walk. (I remember 'Jefferson will ask for a trade if Cousins leaves' discourse)

You don't give him big money or long term, because
A.) This might just be Case Keenum 2.0 and
B.) you have the 10th overall pick waiting in the wings.
It's even different than the Keenum situation too since they had no QBs under contract going into that offseason. Now you have a 10th overall pick. You can even keep Jones around if you want and say that's this years Darnold.

I don't give him big money or long term. A year on the franchise tag or a 1 year deal worth 20/30 million (I'm not sure he takes the latter) fine, but I'd rather take my chances with McCarthy and use that money on defense* and interior OL.

If Darnold goes somewhere else and continues this play and JJM is a bust, then you eat your crow, but it's the right move, IMO.


*Top 3 CBs and Cam Bynum are all UFAs, Smith is old and might retire, and the DL consists of Harrison Phillips and journeyman.
 

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