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The Lakers and Lebron James take short cuts to achieve success. They tried to add Leonard, they added Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony. They tried.

The Lakers Gm role is like that of the Knicks and Cowboys, the owner calls the shots. Pelinka was a terrible GM and had Lebron fall in his lap. He didn't do anything. A.D. fell in his lap because of LeBron. Lebron is the reason for a terrible roster. He calls the shots.

At this stage of his career Lebron is just stretching out his career to make as much money as he can from Basketball and pad his stats.

Here's an article that explain's what I am saying. It's eerie how it lays out exactly what I am saying and it was the first link when i googled "Lakers trying to make a super team"


You could build an All-Star Team around the players the Lakers have leaked their interest in over the past few months. In August, ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported that the Lakers would give up two first-round picks for Kyrie Irving. Donovan Mitchell's name made the rounds in September. On Thursday, Bleacher Report's Chris Haynes threw Bradley Beal onto the pile. Oh, and if that wasn't enough intrigue for you, Howard Beck was told that the Lakers are "waiting for a specific player."

Who is that player? Kevin Durant? Michael Jordan? The Teen Wolf? All I can tell you is that he's probably famous. That's how the Lakers do business. Eight former All-Stars suited up for them during last season's debacle. The most famous of them is just as guilty as the front office.

As the Lakers licked their wounds following a disappointing first-round exit from the 2021 playoffs, LeBron James used his Brentwood home as a setting for what amounted to the NBA's version of The Bachelor. DeMar DeRozan, Damian Lillard and likely others we haven't heard about rolled through the James residence to discuss possible partnerships with the king and his sidekick, Anthony Davis. In the end, the team's brain trust, at James' behest to some degree, landed on Russell Westbrook....
 

Terry Yake

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The Lakers and Lebron James take short cuts to achieve success. They tried to add Leonard, they added Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony. They tried.

The Lakers Gm role is like that of the Knicks and Cowboys, the owner calls the shots. Pelinka was a terrible GM and had Lebron fall in his lap. He didn't do anything. A.D. fell in his lap because of LeBron. Lebron is the reason for a terrible roster. He calls the shots.

At this stage of his career Lebron is just stretching out his career to make as much money as he can from Basketball and pad his stats.

Here's an article that explain's what I am saying. It's eerie how it lays out exactly what I am saying and it was the first link when i googled "Lakers trying to make a super team"

trying to improve your team through FA and trades is "taking shortcuts." so then in that case, every GM in the league takes shortcuts to improve their team?

if lebron fell into the lakers lap, then every big name FA signing fell into their respective teams laps. there was nothing different about how the lakers signed lebron compared to how other teams have signed star FAs in recent memory. the lakers knew they were in a position to contend for a title with lebron on board, so they did what any sane team would do in that situation and trade for a second star. that's not "taking shortcuts," that's simply the business of pro sports

pelinka hasn't been a great GM, but i'll give him credit for building that 2020 title team at the very least
 

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trying to improve your team through FA and trades is "taking shortcuts." so then in that case, every GM in the league takes shortcuts to improve their team?

if lebron fell into the lakers lap, then every big name FA signing fell into their respective teams laps. there was nothing different about how the lakers signed lebron compared to how other teams have signed star FAs in recent memory. the lakers knew they were in a position to contend for a title with lebron on board, so they did what any sane team would do in that situation and trade for a second star. that's not "taking shortcuts," that's simply the business of pro sports

pelinka hasn't been a great GM, but i'll give him credit for building that 2020 title team at the very least
Mitch Kupchak wanted to build through the draft like Jerry Buss did. When Genie took over that changed. Pelinka started clearing the deck to bring in Lebron and sign a roster full of 1 year contracts to open up space for A.D. This is how you buy a championship.

You obviously didn't read the article because it perfectly spells out how teams like the Lakers buy Championships. They weren't very successful because no one wanted to go there and Pelinka sucks as a GM because who knows nothing about evaluating talent.
 

Terry Yake

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Mitch Kupchak wanted to build through the draft like Jerry Buss did. When Genie took over that changed. Pelinka started clearing the deck to bring in Lebron and sign a roster full of 1 year contracts to open up space for A.D. This is how you buy a championship.

You obviously didn't read the article because it perfectly spells out how teams like the Lakers buy Championships. They weren't very successful because no one wanted to go there and Pelinka sucks as a GM because who knows nothing about evaluating talent.
and if you were a GM and had the chance to sign lebron, you wouldn't do what was necessary? really not sure what you're trying to argue here. that's just the business of pro basketball. you either draft talent or acquire it through trades/FA. what is so difficult to grasp about this? what the lakers did is no different than what other teams do every season

yeah, what a mindblowing concept. star FAs didn't want to sign with a bad team. that's exactly why i said originally that lebron rescued the lakers by signing there. if melo, aldridge, or PG had signed with the lakers instead, they would've still traded their future away for a second star because that's what serious teams do

and your little bit about kupchak is a lie considering he literally stated the opposite

 

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Here's one of those stats that's so amazing I actually had to check and see if it was true - and it is. The Celtics now have more wins ( 3 ) this season in Washington than the Wizards ( 2 ) do. :laugh:
 

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and if you were a GM and had the chance to sign lebron, you wouldn't do what was necessary? really not sure what you're trying to argue here. that's just the business of pro basketball. you either draft talent or acquire it through trades/FA. what is so difficult to grasp about this? what the lakers did is no different than what other teams do every season

yeah, what a mindblowing concept. star FAs didn't want to sign with a bad team. that's exactly why i said originally that lebron rescued the lakers by signing there. if melo, aldridge, or PG had signed with the lakers instead, they would've still traded their future away for a second star because that's what serious teams do

and your little bit about kupchak is a lie considering he literally stated the opposite

When Kobe retired they had no one and kupchak used the draft to build up the roster. The Lakers have always been the number one teams who goes out and tries to sign the best players all of the time. If you have nothing of value you can't attract players. When I said build from the draft I wasn't talking about 10 years. Kupchak wanted the depth to attract players Pelinka just wanted to go out and sign who ever they could. 2 different approaches but they were the same result. Trying to buy a championship.





I think the Lakers are worse of with Lebron.
 

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When Kobe retired they had no one and kupchak used the draft to build up the roster. The Lakers have always been the number one teams who goes out and tries to sign the best players all of the time. If you have nothing of value you can't attract players. When I said build from the draft I wasn't talking about 10 years. Kupchak wanted the depth to attract players Pelinka just wanted to go out and sign who ever they could. 2 different approaches but they were the same result. Trying to buy a championship.





I think the Lakers are worse of with Lebron.

they're worse off with a recent title compared to hanging on to guys like ingram, ball, and randle? lmao

maybe if finishing as a play in team was their ultimate goal. and that's just assuming they would've been able to keep all those guys, which they wouldn't have. and if you think kupchak wouldn't have made the same move for AD, then i don't know what to tell you
 
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they're worse off with a recent title compared to hanging on to guys like ingram, ball, and randle? lmao

maybe if finishing as a play in team was their ultimate goal. and that's just assuming they would've been able to keep all those guys, which they wouldn't have. and if you think kupchak wouldn't have made the same move for AD, then i don't know what to tell you
coooool.
 

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just curious, if the clippers had won it all in 2020 would you also consider that "buying a title"? they signed the biggest FA on the market and traded their future for a second star, so the exact same strategy the lakers took
Absolutely.

Kahwi, Paul George, Russell Westbrook, James Harden
Durant, Kyrie, Harden,
Pierce, Garnet, Allen
James, Wade, Bosh,....Allen
James, Irving, Love
James, A.D., Westbrook


All of these players were in their primes with the exception of Garnet and Allen who were going into their 13th seasons but still good. I don't have as much of a problem with aging stars coming together to try and win their first championship late in their careers like Payton, Malone, Nash, Barkley, etc,. I take issue when players like Lebron and Durant do it throughout their whole careers (the worst examples) or players in their primes taking the easy way out.

If over night 1-2 season you add 2,3,4 stars on your team who on their own would be the star of a team to me that is trying to buy a championship. It doesn't always work out but the entertainment value of the whole league is affected. 3/4 of the league are full of garbage teams

2004 Pistons assembled a team of good players, ran a good system, and turned them into all stars who destroyed the power house Lakers in 5 games. David vs Goliath.
2019 raptors took a gamble trading 1 star for another and in the playoffs everything went right.
2021 Bucks with Giannis and Middleton. Built around them over the years
San Antonio built the way its supposed to done
2011 Mavericks
Kobe Lakers
Golden State Warriors
 
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Bucks win the NBA Cup, which everyone undoubtedly knew was still happening
"the deal would generate $500 million a year in advertising revenue according to the company's estimates" seeing the players payouts are probably for the whole tournament you would have to believe Emirates Airlines probably payed out at least 200 million a year for this. The NBA are just whores really.

Tatum will be getting 63 million a season? I guess due to inflation it works out to be about 31 million in 1995 $'s. lol
 

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