Laval Rocket: 2024-25 Laval Rocket Thread

[red devil]

 

[schwang26]

Great. Beck up for a couple weeks too. Start the drop in standings in 3, 2, 1….

 

[HabsAddict]

Isn't the "no powerplay" thing a known plan that everyone in the org is aware of? I could have sworn that I have seen it reported on multiple times this year.

No. It was a comment by Vincent to concentrate on his defense in a regular shift but nothing about taking him out of the powerplay.

He is the Rockets top offensive defenseman and when he's playing error free Vincent does start him on the 1st PP unit. So the PP is used as a dog biscuit, which I vehemently disagree with. That is so 50s and ancient school. Over my career I had thousands of employees. I lost many inches of hairline training people but I never used reward/punishment as daily motivation. People are not Pavlovian dogs.

In overtime, Vincent has no choice but to put him on the first unit...or likely lose the game.

 

[montreal]

No. It was a comment by Vincent to concentrate on his defense in a regular shift but nothing about taking him out of the powerplay.

He is the Rockets top offensive defenseman and when he's playing error free Vincent does start him on the 1st PP unit. So the PP is used as a dog biscuit, which I vehemently disagree with. That is so 50s and ancient school. Over my career I had thousands of employees. I lost many inches of hairline training people but I never used reward/punishment as daily motivation. People are not Pavlovian dogs.

In overtime, Vincent has no choice but to put him on the first unit...or likely lose the game.

i've had trouble understanding the logic behind what they are doing with Mailloux, how one day he's on PP1, next he's not then he's back then he's off it again, then back again.

But I still don't get how Engstrom got benched yet in an OT game where Mailloux was the lone man back and he just gives up on the play and they lose, yet nothing happens to him. Doesn't make sense to me considering Engstrom is a rookie and adjusting to the smaller ice and Mailloux knows better.

 

[HabsAddict]

i've had trouble understanding the logic behind what they are doing with Mailloux, how one day he's on PP1, next he's not then he's back then he's off it again, then back again.

But I still don't get how Engstrom got benched yet in an OT game where Mailloux was the lone man back and he just gives up on the play and they lose, yet nothing happens to him. Doesn't make sense to me considering Engstrom is a rookie and adjusting to the smaller ice and Mailloux knows better.

It's clear that Vincent uses the power play and playing time as a dog biscuit. If Mailman behaves, he get's power play time, it he is a bad doggie, no PP time for him.

The previous game I watched, Mailman pulled a stupid and Vincent would not put him on for a 4 minute powerplay including 5 on 3. Rocket didn't score.

When I first started out in my management career, I had a boss who asked every day, in a very serious tone, what I did that day to keep my job. I was young but self assured and uber arrogant so he couldn't break me down, but previous to me, 3 much older managers had come and gone in 3 years.

THAT kind of management style, the one that we can clearly see in how Vincent hands out PP and playing time, is very corrosive and can easily break down a 21 year old . Particularly one that had one year of pro experience and probably the first time in his life where he gets mentally beaten down.

How is Mailman handling it? I know on the third goal his body language showed defeat. Obviously I can't tell his mental state, but I doubt he likes it. Which Vincent may pick up on and make it worse. That's what 50s style Stalin adjacent management tells him to do.

All we can do is observe and surmise of what is happening behind the scenes...and none of it appears to be good. Given the results, maybe worse then we think.

I also saw a Saturday team that looked closer to junior then AHL. Passes were off, team play was adhock, defenseman were beaten consistently, board battles lost....not a team halfway through the season.