2024 25 Kraken Roster Discussion

[Kevinsane]

This game is who effs up last.

 

[Irie]

Look at the Sabres. Imagine that they have a goalie they can count on. Then, imagine they don’t have a really solid D they can count on. Pretty much everything else is the same as the Kraken. A lot of hope without anything to back it up so far.

@Irie would have far more opinions about these two teams and will probably shit all over my drunken takes.

As long as the takes are drunken, I am probably good with them

 

[Irie]

Sabres fan here. What does Seattle need on the NHL roster? Just getting a pulse for it as the Sabres may need a massive rebuild. Thanks

The two teams area just one or two spots from each other and near the bottom of the standings. Funny thing is, they both sorta could really use the same things.

1.) A game changing true #1 center
2.) A coach who coaches a system that wasn't commonplace in the 90s.

 

[CLW]

The two teams area just one or two spots from each other and near the bottom of the standings. Funny thing is, they both sorta could really use the same things.

1.) A game changing true #1 center
2.) A coach who coaches a system that wasn't commonplace in the 90s.

#2 bugs me.

Case in point - last night against EDM (and MIN and STL and WSH and TBL recently etc.). Teams with good X and O coaches know exactly how the Kraken want to move the puck. They choke off the puck movement at the critical points, the Kraken's transition fails, the Kraken cough up the puck and it goes the other way and ends up in the net. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat...

This is extra annoying because the Kraken have a lot of good PMDs and their forwards are mostly light and agile. This team cannot afford to fail at transition, especially not to fail to get out of a heavy forecheck because they don't have the troops to fight grunt wars in the trenches.

 

[Fuhrious]

#2 bugs me.

Case in point - last night against EDM (and MIN and STL and WSH and TBL recently etc.). Teams with good X and O coaches know exactly how the Kraken want to move the puck. They choke off the puck movement at the critical points, the Kraken's transition fails, the Kraken cough up the puck and it goes the other way and ends up in the net. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat...

This is extra annoying because the Kraken have a lot of good PMDs and their forwards are mostly light and agile. This team cannot afford to fail at transition, especially not to fail to get out of a heavy forecheck because they don't have the troops to fight grunt wars in the trenches.

Honestly this is a good summation of why it surprised me to hear the players mutinied against Hakstol. Despite his other shortcomings, he was at least playing a fast skating transition system that fit the players he had. Between that and an unsustainable-to-the-point-of-comical shooting % we got the cinderella playoff season and a team that was incredibly entertaining to watch.

This iteration isn't either of those things and seems to be asking players to run a system they clearly don't fit or even like. So are they happy with the results of their little revolt?

 

[Der Jaeger]

I’m not a fan of having two #1 D on the same team. I’m not down on Owen Power but I think he’s being wasted behind Dahlin.

Does Seattle need a #1 D like Power?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I’m not a fan of having two #1 D on the same team. I’m not down on Owen Power but I think he’s being wasted behind Dahlin.

Does Seattle need a #1 D like Power?

I am not convinced that Power is that much of an upgrade over Montour or Dunn. Our biggest single need is an elite top line forward. Does not matter if its at wing or C but that is what this team should try to target via trade or UFA this off-season. Especially if it's a trade which will involve significant assets going the other way, like Power would.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Look at the Sabres. Imagine that they have a goalie they can count on. Then, imagine they don’t have a really solid D they can count on. Pretty much everything else is the same as the Kraken. A lot of hope without anything to back it up so far.

@Irie would have far more opinions about these two teams and will probably shit all over my drunken takes.

We're basically a worse version of the Sabres.

Can't play defense, can barely score, a few young talented players who can't put it together and be elite. Except Sabres have Dahlin and Thompson who are better than anything on the Kraken roster, and have young talent in spades. I wish we had a Benson, JJP, Kulich, etc. Hopefully our prospects get there but they're probably a few years away.

I think Thompson would probably be the main piece we'd be interested in realistically, though I'd prefer just getting guys I mentioned that are younger, but I don't see either of our teams as being great trading partners.

Maybe if they wanted some overpaid old wingers...

 

[Dead Coyote]

I am not convinced that Power is that much of an upgrade over Montour or Dunn. Our biggest single need is an elite top line forward. Does not matter if its at wing or C but that is what this team should try to target via trade or UFA this off-season. Especially if it's a trade which will involve significant assets going the other way, like Power would.

I'd prefer a center as wingers are generally more available in the draft/FA and we could theoretically move both Beniers and Wright (or Stephenson) to the wing, but yeah, really more than anything I think what we need is an elite offensive talent. I think Ownership would also be happier to step back and not interfere as much if we had someone like a Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid, Kane, Draisatl, Kucherov, etc who could really showcase high skill and would put bodies in the seats and was always dangerous as a scorer.

We have the goalie, our defense isn't amazing but on paper should be fine (Dunn and Evans sucking defensively is something of an outlier this season but if we had more talent up front we wouldn't have to invest in PMD like Dunn + Montour either) and we have a boatload of middle six/bottom six talent, we really just need a full line of elite offensive production

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I'd prefer a center as wingers are generally more available in the draft/FA and we could theoretically move both Beniers and Wright (or Stephenson) to the wing, but yeah, really more than anything I think what we need is an elite offensive talent. I think Ownership would also be happier to step back and not interfere as much if we had someone like a Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid, Kane, Draisatl, Kucherov, etc who could really showcase high skill and would put bodies in the seats and was always dangerous as a scorer.

We have the goalie, our defense isn't amazing but on paper should be fine (Dunn and Evans sucking defensively is something of an outlier this season but if we had more talent up front we wouldn't have to invest in PMD like Dunn + Montour either) and we have a boatload of middle six/bottom six talent, we really just need a full line of elite offensive production

LOL. Yeah we do. But for now, I will be happy with 1 forward on the team who is elite ofensively and we can count on to generate chances when we are down.

 

[Fuhrious]

Previously, I feel like Dunn (and now Montour and Evans) were able to freestyle more because Larsson (and to a lesser extent Oleksiak) were playing really solid lockdown D. This season both have really started to show their age.