2024-25 General Dallas Stars Talk

[Triple Ex El]

You think Ceci as a RH PKing dman will be sat before Lian the rookie? I can't see it unless their play pushes PDB's hand in an obvious direction ie Lian goes absolute beast mode or Ceci just absolutely stinks. Ceci has almost 100 PO games under his belt...I think the chances of him sitting are nil.

Apologies...my level of employment status was not allowing me to think that deeply about it

 

[M88K]

More seriously, take a look at the situation at the time. Nill wouldn't sign Tanev for 6 years and 4.5-5 million, knowing he has others to sign down the road, and that Tanev would be 41 when the contract was done. You probably would have trashed that move, as well.

Take a look at the other top UFA d men available last year. Those all signed $6-7Mil over 6-7 years, which would also put the Stars in a bind in the near future. Instead, he signed 3 mid to lower level UFA D men for 1-3 year terms, basically hoping 2 would work out, for $8-7Mil per year and a shorter term. Yes, only Lubs really worked out, but he decided that this type of risk was worth it. And, despite our complaints, they are near the top of GAA average for the league, so it must have worked out okay in total, even if you want to bitch about Dumba having bad metrics.

So, yes, Nill's signing of those three D men is defensible, when you look at it like a GM and try to balance going all in with long term planning. At least, IMHO.

Knowing the alternative is Dumba, I would gladly take Tanev at 6yrs for 4.5m.
and yes, It is dumb to commit that much term to a player that old, but at least for the short term he is an actual #4 dman, unlike our cadre of #6/7 guys.. 800k is the difference between Dumba and Tanev's salary.
Ironically 800k is about the level of play Dumba brings to the table.

90% of the defensemen signed last year got less than 6m. Montour is the only one that comes to mind that broke 6m (he got north of 7), maybe i'm missing someone but of the big names available both Roy and Pesce got around 5.5m. Yes they got decent amount of term, but nothing that would cause issues for the Stars.

Hell Ghost and Walker both make less than Dumba and got little term (1yr more for Ghost,2 for Walker), not that either were ideal targets but both would be significantly better than Dumba.

If only it was bad Metrics, there is nothing redeeming about Dumba's play, anyone who watched him in the last 4yrs should have seen that.

The theoretical cap bind is so played out at this point.
The 2m more that Roy or Pesce cost, than Dumba, and the 4yrs longer term, is not a hinderance at all.
I don't know where people keep getting that from, regurgitated form Heika/Levine is my guess.
The team has no significant raises that it doesn't already have a buffer for (credit the FO for that). 30m in capspace for next season currently, only Johnston(of any significance) to re-sign, jumps to 58m the year after (Harley/Robertson)

Sure ideally they re-sign Duchene as well, maybe even Benn, but there's no scenario where 2m extra from Roy/Pesce prevents that.

Harley -Jones
Lindell - Lyubushkin
Bichsel - Ceci

Until Miro returns and pushes Ceci to the 7th role like @Johno said.

I works for the man and lack the business owner acumen to propose the deal with Chicago. Just assuming Dumba goes the other way

If they add jones or Karlsson they are going to run Miro at LD.

Miro-Jones/Karlsson
Harley-x
Lindell-x
where x is Lyubushkin or Ceci.
and Bichsel is in the AHL until an injury or Texas loses in the PO.
but it's probably less than 1% chance they add an actual top 4 RD

 

[account deactivated]

And that's fine, has nothing to do with being a genius or not. For a lot of people it's a hell of a salary. I run my own company, it would be a significant pay cut, though probably a lot less stressful.

250k is a "significant" paycut for you? That shit is almost 5x what I make a year working for the state. Shit, I'd be ecstatic if I could hit 80k.

At least I have an excuse for being so damn negative all the time, yours has now been revoked, lol.

 

[catters078]

Are they allowed to trade during 4 Nations? Or is there some form of freeze

 

[M88K]

Are they allowed to trade during 4 Nations? Or is there some form of freeze

Are they allowed to trade during 4 Nations? Or is there some form of freeze

they're allowed, only trade freeze is Christmas

 

[starsfan86]

@M88K you should buy the team with all that moneyz you have.

 

[M88K]

250k is a "significant" paycut for you? That shit is almost 5x what I make a year working for the state. Shit, I'd be ecstatic if I could hit 80k.

At least I have an excuse for being so damn negative all the time, yours has now been revoked, lol.

Can't speak for State jobs, but the best way to get a raise these days is to switch jobs.
New hire budgets are generally higher than retention pools.
But hopefully the pay gets better.
It took a long time to get where I currently am, it was a lot of years or paycheck to paycheck and hoping nothing serious went wrong with my house, car, health, etc.
Even some years of just outright ignoring issues... who needs knees anyway...

 

[Zapp]

Per Nick Kypreos on Sportsnet

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

MK88,

The top six UFA Dmen all got 6 or 7 years and over $30Mil for that. Even Brendan Dillon got $4 Million for 3 years, or $12Mil total, and I think we would all agree that is an overpayment. Surprising in UFA, lol.

I don't think the extent of the cap raise was known back on July 1, start of the UFA period. You know, we always pick a player to crap all over each year. While Dumba is a better candidate than we have "elected" in most years, he was a lower budget signing, which we know Nill prefers in consideration of the future of the franchise. It really hasn't worked out, but the damage will be minimal, again considering where our GAA stands (and Otters save % isn't world beating either, so some credit has to go to the D, and the coaches who can cover Dumba's weaknesses.

Would I recommend Nill do it again? No, but I won't crap all over him for the signing. I didn't like it either, given his hit on Pavs a few years ago, but no one seems to mind that.

 

[M88K]

Per Nick Kypreos on Sportsnet


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We're always rumored to be in on the big fish, but then we go back to the bargain bin.
Wouldn't get your hopes up