2024-25 General Dallas Stars Talk

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[serp]

He would've been UFA at the end of the season IRC if they didn't re-sign him. Think he would've needed to play pretty much all 82 games to stay RFA .

 

[LT]

No problems with that. He's been exactly as advertised. Current Faksa 2.0.

Maybe he develops a bit more offense with more experience, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[Dallasman]

Great 4th liner. Glad he's sticking around with a little raise.

 

[serp]

No problems with that. He's been exactly as advertised. Current Faksa 2.0.

Maybe he develops a bit more offense with more experience, but I wouldn't count on it.

He's put up defenseman like numbers in the AHL and in Sweden as well. Playmaking is there , finish on the other hand has never been . Anytime he scores a goal it looks like an accident .

 

[starsfan86]

No problems with that. He's been exactly as advertised. Current Faksa 2.0.

Maybe he develops a bit more offense with more experience, but I wouldn't count on it.

I’m good with this too. Didn’t really have an issue with Faksa as a player. It was his salary that was the issue.

 

[serp]

I’m good with this too. Didn’t really have an issue with Faksa as a player. It was his salary that was the issue.

Especially considering how many Faksa types the Stars drafted since 2012 and how a decent number of those turned into NHL players . The Faksa type defensively responsible forward is the only archtype the Stars never had a shortage of.

 

[piqued]

Good for Back.

One of the few examples of a Euro staying an extra year beyond the ELC and grinding it out in the AHL paying off.

I thought he would become an NHLer watching him in CP but even so he's surprised me with his sneaky-good instincts all over the ice in all 3 zones. He badly fills a need of guys who can cycle and maintain possession down in the bottom 6.

As long as a coach doesn't lose his mind and base the entire forward corps around him or a GM lose his mind and give him both money and term, he's the perfect guy for the 4th line.

 

[serp]

Pretty good english for a first year finnish pro also with the beard he has going he doesn't look all that similar to the picture from the callup tweet.

OTT@DAL Pregame: Arttu Hyry | Dallas Stars

Arttu Hyry speaks to the media before the game against Ottawa

www.nhl.com

 

[piqued]

They should've asked how being snubbed for the 4 Nations roster has motivated him.

 

[Troy McClure]

With the Christmas trade freeze over and several teams clearly falling into seller territory, it’s time to start thinking about what will have to be sent out to bring in a roster upgrade using Seguin’s LTIR money.

The Stars have a surplus of youngish forwards who are supposed to bring good offense and thus have value as trade chips. Robertson, Johnston, Bourque, and Stankoven all have no trade protection and are the eligible bachelors. I don’t think any recent forward draft pick in the system has much value.

- Robertson is finally coming around, but his skating limitations and his playoff disappearances make him a long-term worry.
- Johnston is probably the best of these four as an all around player. He’s also not very fast, but none of these guys are particularly good skaters. He’s the guy I’d least want to trade.

Stankoven and Bourque aren’t giving them shit this season and thus become the most obvious to trade, so the real question for the pro scouts is which one do they think is more likely to turn into a real NHL player.

-Stankoven keeps getting into great scoring spots but seems to have lost any accuracy on his shot, and he’s lately not been handling NHL physicality well, which is keeping him from even generating chances for his line mates. I keep thinking his chances are going to start turning into goals.
- Bourque is just a warm body so far his rookie season. I have no idea how to gauge whether he has anything because he’s shown nothing.

 

[LT]

Bourque has progressively looked better. He's settling in. Oddly enough he's also been one of our better skaters. That's not so much because he's a great skater, but moreso because a majority of the team (and nearly all of the forwards) are slow.

I think the window has this year and next, and then it will close again until we can regenerate the forward depth necessary to contend again. I'll do a deep dive later, but this is absolutely a year to go all in. There aren't any clear cut Cup favorites, and after coming within 6 games of the prize in back to back years, the mileage is taking a toll.

I don't think anyone on the current roster will be moved. I also don't see Nill moving Bichsel. All the picks and prospects should be on the table, and it's not Nill's MO, but I would prefer the prospect wells go dry in an attempt to win a Cup within the next two years.

 

[Magic Mittens]

Unless we're getting a player with term, there's no way I'm moving Stank for a rental. The puck will start going in for him. He's technically still a rookie and that's way too early to give up on him. That's a trade that will look bad in a few years

Bourque I can see maybe being a trade chip, but teams don't normally trade roster players for rentals.

Where's @Dallasman at!

 

[Troy McClure]

Unless we're getting a player with term, there's no way I'm moving Stank for a rental. The puck will start going in for him. He's technically still a rookie and that's way too early to give up on him. That's a trade that will look bad in a few years

Bourque I can see maybe being a trade chip, but teams don't normally trade roster players for rentals.

Where's @Dallasman at!

But would Bourque still be in the lineup once the playoffs start with Seguin back and the trade acquisition on the roster?

 

[Magic Mittens]

But would Bourque still be a roster player once the playoffs start with Seguin back and the trade acquisition on the roster?

Probably not, hard to say. If we only pick up one forward then he'd most likely stay imo

I'd assume Nill will add one forward and one D, after that who knows

 

[LT]

I think it's too early to assume Seguin will be available, as much as I want to pencil him in on a playoff lineup.

Robertson - Hintz - Dadonov
Marchment - Duchene - Johnston
Benn - Bourque - Stankoven
Steel - Back - Blackwell

Back and Blackwell are the two guys here I think they'd be comfortable sitting, given a healthy lineup and new acquisitions. There seems to be growing trust in Bourque and Stankoven from the coaching staff, and I have a good feeling that will be rewarded soon enough.

If they think Seguin will return, then they probably look to just add one forward.

 

[Dynamite Time]

But would Bourque still be in the lineup once the playoffs start with Seguin back and the trade acquisition on the roster?

Who do you see being the possible trade acquisition? Like others have said Stank I feel will get going and Bourque has looked more comfortable lately.

 

[Azzuri]

Bourque has progressively looked better. He's settling in. Oddly enough he's also been one of our better skaters. That's not so much because he's a great skater, but moreso because a majority of the team (and nearly all of the forwards) are slow.

I think the window has this year and next, and then it will close again until we can regenerate the forward depth necessary to contend again. I'll do a deep dive later, but this is absolutely a year to go all in. There aren't any clear cut Cup favorites, and after coming within 6 games of the prize in back to back years, the mileage is taking a toll.

I don't think anyone on the current roster will be moved. I also don't see Nill moving Bichsel. All the picks and prospects should be on the table, and it's not Nill's MO, but I would prefer the prospect wells go dry in an attempt to win a Cup within the next two years.

I disagree completely. I think this is not the year to go in and that we're a year or two away. We knew we'd take a step back this year letting the youth movement take over. Our rookies are a little too green to be difference makers.

Benn coming off the books or coming back at a reduction, and another year of Wyatt/Stank/Borque/Bischel figuring it out. Seguin won't be the same player after surgery and probably needs an offseason.

I said it before the year and will say it especially now that we're a pretty mid team - I think our real window is 1-2 years away. Don't sell the farm this year when our difference makers are all not making differences.

 

[catters078]

I disagree completely. I think this is not the year to go in and that we're a year or two away. We knew we'd take a step back this year letting the youth movement take over. Our rookies are a little too green to be difference makers.

Benn coming off the books or coming back at a reduction, and another year of Wyatt/Stank/Borque/Bischel figuring it out. Seguin won't be the same player after surgery and probably needs an offseason.

I said it before the year and will say it especially now that we're a pretty mid team - I think our real window is 1-2 years away. Don't sell the farm this year when our difference makers are all not making differences.

This forum has been saying that line for years.

I remember back after the 2022 playoffs where Otter had that great series...We were all like, 2-3 seasons and this team will be at its true contending peak. That should be right now.

Saying in "1 to 2" years feels a bit of a redundant thing to say to me...because in 2 years time, we will again be saying " in 2 to 3 years we will be at our best".

Reality is we have a very good core now. Need another top 6 forward no doubt to contend for a championship, but hey if one is gettable...I think it's time, go all in in.

Look at Florida's model, Vegas before that

Very few teams have played the steady path of steady drafting and economic free agent plays only to get to a championship, bold additions are required to add to a line up.

Go get a star

 

[Azzuri]

Adding someone like Eichel or Tkachuk on term is one thing. Sure if you can get a superstar at an 8 year deal for assets, do it. I'm not feeling this year as the year to go all in on rentals though.

 

[Henderson33]

Over the next 1-2 years we will potentially have to replace Duchene, Marchment, & Benn's production, possibly Robertson, and Seguin could drop off a cliff or be sent to Robidas Island at any moment over the duration of his contract.

Add in the cost it's going to take to replace and resign our own, we might never have more cap freedom than we do this season.

 

[M88K]

It's weird seeing everyone dog on the best player on the team for a 3month window of bad play. Who's a whole 5p off the team lead in scoring, in spite of those 3months of being ass.

Since he's become a full time NHLer he's got a near 70P over 2nd place on the team in scoring.
Even if you look at the last 2yrs, he's 4th in goals and 1st in points.
If you look at just PO
for the last 2years.
He's 1st in points, 2nd in goals.
the last year
He's still 1st in points, 2nd in goals.

That's not a player you look at trading as an issue

 

[LT]

I disagree completely. I think this is not the year to go in and that we're a year or two away. We knew we'd take a step back this year letting the youth movement take over. Our rookies are a little too green to be difference makers.

Benn coming off the books or coming back at a reduction, and another year of Wyatt/Stank/Borque/Bischel figuring it out. Seguin won't be the same player after surgery and probably needs an offseason.

I said it before the year and will say it especially now that we're a pretty mid team - I think our real window is 1-2 years away. Don't sell the farm this year when our difference makers are all not making differences.

How are we going to replace Duchene and Marchment? Or Benn and Seguin's production after it drops? What about the raises that Robertson and Johnston will command?

 

[BfantZ]

Adding someone like Eichel or Tkachuk on term is one thing. Sure if you can get a superstar at an 8 year deal for assets, do it. I'm not feeling this year as the year to go all in on rentals though.

I may agree with you if we didn’t have the extra 10m in cap space once seguin is on LTIR . If he makes it back for playoffs we have an opportunity to be seriously stacked . We have a deep team plus cap space . This is the year .