Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread

[FlyingV09]

Dumoulin and Fabbri are the most likely to be moved. Can't imagine any of the young players going unless it's in a package for something big. Gibson trade seems unlikely unless something like a panic moment for a team that gets a goalie injury at the wrong time. Killorn is unlikely to go. Everyone else is 4th line/AHL value.

My guess is Dumoulin or Fabbri retained gets a 2nd or 3rd + 4th. Both open up space for other players: young players with Dumoulin's spot and, hopefully, a top 6 forward with Fabbri's spot. I'm just not confident a top 6 scoring forward will be available by the trade deadline.

I do think Verbeek is going to try somehow to get a second 1st or a 2nd rounder, to recoup the 2nd we traded with Drysdale.

 

[gilfaizon]

Dumoulin and Fabbri are the most likely to be moved. Can't imagine any of the young players going unless it's in a package for something big. Gibson trade seems unlikely unless something like a panic moment for a team that gets a goalie injury at the wrong time. Killorn is unlikely to go. Everyone else is 4th line/AHL value.

My guess is Dumoulin or Fabbri retained gets a 2nd or 3rd + 4th. Both open up space for other players: young players with Dumoulin's spot and, hopefully, a top 6 forward with Fabbri's spot. I'm just not confident a top 6 scoring forward will be available by the trade deadline.

I'm expecting a bit less for both of those guys. Maybe a 3rd or a 4th.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Putting this out into the universe. Canes lose first round, Ratenan still hasn’t signed an extension with the hurricanes. The ducks hire a fired brindamour, Ratenan hits FA and we sign him to a huge deal

 

[tomd]

Putting this out into the universe. Canes lose first round, Ratenan still hasn’t signed an extension with the hurricanes. The ducks hire a fired brindamour, Ratenan hits FA and we sign him to a huge deal

The multiverse is real...

 

[gilfaizon]

The canes have wanted another superstar for a while, but I think it's very likely Rantanen just wanted to test the waters. If he gets there, we can offer just as much as anyone in the league (considering deferrals).

 

[Gliff]

Crazy good return for the Aves getting a legit top liner in return.

Obviously keeping rantanen would have been better but he obviously was going to market.

I view this as a good thing in terms of signing Rantanen this summer. The Eucks are one of the few teams that can pay him the price he is going to command and he obviously is asking for it considering the Aves dealt him.

 

[dracom]

if the cap does go up to 97 mil like it's been reported, I could see Pat throwing 14mil to Rantanen. Now is that enough to convince him to come to a rebuilding team that's still struggling?

 

[jiggsawpuzzle35]

if the cap does go up to 97 mil like it's been reported, I could see Pat throwing 14mil to Rantanen. Now is that enough to convince him to come to a rebuilding team that's still struggling?

That’s why you can Cronin before the season ends and bring in a competent coach.

 

[Sniperberg]

Ratenan (formerly known as Rantanen) aint signing here unless we somehow manage to get Aho as well. Canes gonna throw a blank cheque at him

 

[Terry Yake]

Ratenan (formerly known as Rantanen) aint signing here unless we somehow manage to get Aho as well. Canes gonna throw a blank cheque at him

but do they throw him the $$$ if they fall short in the playoffs again?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

if the cap does go up to 97 mil like it's been reported, I could see Pat throwing 14mil to Rantanen. Now is that enough to convince him to come to a rebuilding team that's still struggling?

I looked at the Cane's projected cap space in 2025-26 on PuckPedia and they project the Canes to have $31 mil space available at cap limit of $88 mil. The Canes can probably afford $14 mil to Rantanen.

 

[cheesymc]

The big trade makes sense for both Avs and Hurricanes. But Chicago only got a 3rd for Hall and eating half of Rantanens contract? That’s not good for us if that’s the type of return we can expect…absolutely terrible.

 

[Hey234]

I looked at the Cane's projected cap space in 2025-26 on PuckPedia and they project the Canes to have $31 mil space available at cap limit of $88 mil. The Canes can probably afford $14 mil to Rantanen.

This. They are going to have some time to convince him to stay and have the space to sign him. The more successful they are, the more likely he'll stay. Very low chance he makes it to market and is open to the Ducks.

 

[Hey234]

It sounds like Carolina had multiple deals on the table and decided on Colorado with Miller or Pettersson in Vancouver the other options. Demko was apparently on the table which means Carolina is still open to a goalie. Wonder if they look back at Gibson once the dust settles?

 

[Frosted Tips]

I wonder what Verbeek put on the table for Rantanen? I'm sure he had or at least tried to put his spoon in this soup. Colorado probably was not interested in more of a future package though.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I wonder what Verbeek put on the table for Rantanen? I'm sure he had or at least tried to put his spoon in this soup. Colorado probably was not interested in more of a future package though.

aves needed a forward pieces that could be productive now , woulda needed to be like

Terry/zegras/mctavish
Luneau/zellweger
Dumolin
Picks

Just doesn’t make sense for us…. If we want 1 of these big names it has to be through free agency, or something we can trade our 1st + for. I don’t think we can subtract to add for our offense.

If we’re trading for help now it has to be a team looking to rid themselves of cap/struggling player with potential…. Kinda like the burakovksy/bjorkstrand trades the last couple years. But if those don’t happen, then we prob have to wait till offseason.

Unfortunately no one is going to come here with Cronin at the helm…. Specially with what silf/bush have said…. Red flags all over

 

[cheesymc]

It sounds like Carolina had multiple deals on the table and decided on Colorado with Miller or Pettersson in Vancouver the other options. Demko was apparently on the table which means Carolina is still open to a goalie. Wonder if they look back at Gibson once the dust settles?

I was hoping this but they’ve been super stingy with offering their prospects, not giving any real top prospects even for Guentzel.

 

[AngelDuck]

It’s a good trade for both sides. I highly doubt the ducks have any chance at signing Rantanen.

We’re going to be left looking at 3rd liners again barring a miracle trade

No top tier UFA in their prime is coming here

The only chance the ducks have at getting a superstar is by trading Zegras+ or McTavish+. I don’t think Carlsson or Sennecke will be on the table. I hope McTavish isn’t on the table either but he was drafted by BM so who knows

The most realistic path to getting better offensively is by trading Luneau+ IMO. He’s not going to return a superstar but he can bring back the next tier level forward that we need (a Terry level player)

 

[tomd]

I wonder what Verbeek put on the table for Rantanen? I'm sure he had or at least tried to put his spoon in this soup. Colorado probably was not interested in more of a future package though.

This was a hockey trade between two teams looking to win a SC. Note Rantanen went to Carolina with no guarantee of signing with them and it still cost Carolina one of the best players in the league this year. No way Verbeek would have put anything on the table under those circumstances.

As others have said, the Ducks are going to have to draft their way to being a competitive team which is why it is so important for them to make every pick count.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It’s a good trade for both sides. I highly doubt the ducks have any chance at signing Rantanen.

We’re going to be left looking at 3rd liners again barring a miracle trade

No top tier UFA in their prime is coming here

The only chance the ducks have at getting a superstar is by trading Zegras+ or McTavish+. I don’t think Carlsson or Sennecke will be on the table. I hope McTavish isn’t on the table either but he was drafted by BM so who knows

The most realistic path to getting better offensively is by trading Luneau+ IMO. He’s not going to return a superstar but he can bring back the next tier level forward that we need (a Terry level player)

Luneau + our 1st is prob a good starting point towards a high end player, in the offseason…. For a team that is in cap trouble…. We’ll have a better idea in the offseason.

Vancouver is prob the team to watch…. Granted those guys might be damaged goods

Marner would be okay but if Cronin is here still no way that works.

 

[tomd]

Luneau + our 1st is prob a good starting point towards a high end player, in the offseason…. For a team that is in cap trouble…. We’ll have a better idea in the offseason.

Vancouver is prob the team to watch…. Granted those guys might be damaged goods

Marner would be okay but if Cronin is here still no way that works.

Luneau has a chance to be a very good defenseman but I question what his value is right now. IMO, he probably has the same value as a Logan Mailloux type of player. And that isn't an insult to either player. Both have potential but both still have a lot to prove before they are NHL regulars. Our 1st may have value if it is a top 4 pick but the value will drop rapidly after that. Overall, I don't think the combination is as valuable to another team as it is to the Ducks. My $0.02.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Luneau has a chance to be a very good defenseman but I question what his value is right now. IMO, he probably has the same value as a Logan Mailloux type of player. And that isn't an insult to either player. Both have potential but both still have a lot to prove before they are NHL regulars. Our 1st may have value if it is a top 4 pick but the value will drop rapidly after that. Overall, I don't think the combination is as valuable to another team as it is to the Ducks. My $0.02.

I agree there, the highish 1st is more the big piece

 

[cheesymc]

Luneau has a chance to be a very good defenseman but I question what his value is right now. IMO, he probably has the same value as a Logan Mailloux type of player. And that isn't an insult to either player. Both have potential but both still have a lot to prove before they are NHL regulars. Our 1st may have value if it is a top 4 pick but the value will drop rapidly after that. Overall, I don't think the combination is as valuable to another team as it is to the Ducks. My $0.02.

Not even close. Mailloux has much more size, offensive upside, physicality, and also produced in the AHL. Luneau hasn’t produced and also has injury concerns. We’d be lucky to get a mid to late 2nd for him.

 

[tomd]

Not even close. Mailloux has much more size, offensive upside, physicality, and also produced in the AHL. Luneau hasn’t produced and also has injury concerns.

Luneau is also a year younger. I'm not going to get caught up in comparing them though. I just used Mailloux as an example of a player with potential but not a ton of trade value. You can use your own example but it won't change my argument.

 

[AngelDuck]

Not even close. Mailloux has much more size, offensive upside, physicality, and also produced in the AHL. Luneau hasn’t produced and also has injury concerns. We’d be lucky to get a mid to late 2nd for him.

Mailloux: 6’3” 213 pounds, 21 points in 34 games in the AHL

Luneau: 6’2” 203 pounds, 15 points in 24 AHL games

Not really sure what you mean by not even close. The injuries are a concern with Luneau but the hope is that it’s behind him now