Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread

All Mighty

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This is interesting work and I hope it leads to some useful data. Two possibilities to add:

- Did he try to go forward with the faceoff? This isn't common, but it does happen sometimes, particularly in the offensive zone.

- This is harder to track, but I think is one of the key aspects to a faceoff win or loss - did a winger have a significant impact in the faceoff? If so, which winger? In other words, did the faceoff result in a puck battle by the wingers, and if so, who was the winner/loser of the puck battle?
I will try to incorporate your 2nd suggestion. It would be good to see if Duck wingers help their centers less frequently than their opponents. Thank you!
 

FlyingV09

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Here is a screenshot of 1 period's worth of data from my master spreadsheet:
View attachment 926579

And here is an explanation on a few of the variables (columns on the spreadsheet) I'm tracking:

Reason - What caused the faceoff. Mainly tracking this to see how they do after icings and penalties where one team should have noticeable advantage.

Side - What side of the ice (from a Ducks' perspective) the faceoff takes place.

Strong - Is this faceoff on the Duck player's strong side? And OppStrong asks the same question for the opponent.

Kick - Did the Duck player get kicked? And if so, who was it?

OppKick - Did an opposing player get thrown out of the circle?

Clean - This is the only real arbitrary thing I'm tracking. I have refined my definition to: "A faceoff win is considered clean if the team that was officially credited with the win gets initial, legitimate possession of the puck." I'm tracking this because there are varying degrees to winning and losing a draw. A clean win to a teammate is obviously better than a win where your winger gets outworked and loses the puck battle.


Does anyone have any other suggestions on things I can track for each faceoff? Preferably something that isn't time consuming as I do this live while the play is going on.
This is good stuff. The one thing I noticed is although the face off is in the neutral zone, a centre can still be on his strong side. It more comes down to what side the ref is dropping the puck. If you’re right handed, and the ref is on your right, then I would still consider it the strong side.

Your body naturally wants to turn in the direction of the ref, because that’s the way your head is turned to watch his hand. If it’s on your forehand, you have to work sort of cross body and you have less leverage.
 

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This is good stuff. The one thing I noticed is although the face off is in the neutral zone, a centre can still be on his strong side. It more comes down to what side the ref is dropping the puck. If you’re right handed, and the ref is on your right, then I would still consider it the strong side.

Your body naturally wants to turn in the direction of the ref, because that’s the way your head is turned to watch his hand. If it’s on your forehand, you have to work sort of cross body and you have less leverage.
That’s interesting. I’ll do some more research on that.
 

Kalv

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Carcone would bring some much needed speed and we only had one guy (Vatrano) score more than 21 goals last year. Another left shot winger isn't ideal and I'm sure PV would prefer a bigger body but I'd still gladly take a cheap flier on this one. Could send Cutter down to regain his offensive touch, no panic here but maybe he could use it.
He's 5'9 so he's probably not that effective for dump & chase :/
 

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