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Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread
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Dr Johnny Fever
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Sure anything is possible. And for sure, if Friedman's post is all manure then there's nothing to be made of it.
But...if Verbeek thought he needed Cam to protect the young guys he wouldn't have gone beyond asking him for his 4 team list, file it away, and that would be the end of it. (Because other than Pierre Dorian, that's what GMs do each year with their players who have limited NTCs) Engaging in any conversation with Cam to extend the list would seem contrary to the notion that we absolutely need Cam as part of the plan to develop the young guys.
I'm not Cam's biggest fan, but I'm not one of the ones wanting to drive him out of town yesterday either. Just trying to read the tea leaves best I can.
Anaheim4ever
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Maybe the trade request came up because he lost out on becoming captain and their about to name Gudas captain and Vatrano and Killorn/Strome as alternates.
Fowler as Captain is like putting McLovin from Superbad as captain, he's good at getting hit and not being able to stand up for his teammates when they get hit.
Fowler as Captain is like putting McLovin from Superbad as captain, he's good at getting hit and not being able to stand up for his teammates when they get hit.
SmokeyDuck
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This is my speculation as well, though I will believe it when I see it.
Boo Boo
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Cam may have also been under the impression that we would be bringing in a top 6 forward and a top 4 defender to elevate our team too.
it wouldn’t really surprise me if we were kind of stringing along some of our vets a bit on the premise of being big free agent players which obviously fell through.
it wouldn’t really surprise me if we were kind of stringing along some of our vets a bit on the premise of being big free agent players which obviously fell through.
SmokeyDuck
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A plausible thought. On the surface it may seem like a step back but it is a non issue a couple years down the line imo. No doubt the latter half of those contracts would have stung and Fowler only has two years left anyways. We certainly have a glut of LHD.
robbieboy3686
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Lacombe and Fowler helped us not rush minty and zell last season, if nothing else that’s a big win in itself. I don’t expect much from lacombe going forward with the ducks( as well as Fowler )
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Lacombe will be fine, has plenty of potential…. Might not have the upside of luneau zellweger and Mintyukov but I think he’s a great utility/compliment piece
robbieboy3686
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I’ll keep saying, I hope I’m dead wrong in lacombe. Would love to eat crow on him
He seems like the kind of guy, if he's on your bottom pairing, you're in good shape.
Yeah, I think LaCombe will end up being one of the league's best bottom pairing defensemen. He clearly has top-4 potential (possibly even a #3 defenseman), but he will end up being used on the bottom pairing once our cupboard of prospects has matured enough, and that is an enticing thought.
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again, lol @ fowler if this is really about being passed over as captain. he's done nothing on the ice at least to earn the C
if he wants a trade so he can play for a winner, then i can't blame him for that. he's on the wrong end of 30 and on the decline, so who knows how much longer he's got left
if he wants a trade so he can play for a winner, then i can't blame him for that. he's on the wrong end of 30 and on the decline, so who knows how much longer he's got left
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Cam definitely has a complex about not being captain.
I mean think about it, from his perspective, he likely has, (on some degree) a sense of entitlement to it.
He was drafted by us and made the team as an 18 year old, was under Captain Scotty’s wing living with him as a rookie, getting blue balled by wearing an “A” (lol) and management kinda having a soft spot for him, with a big contract and not trading him when he should have been around 2015-17.
I mean think about it, from his perspective, he likely has, (on some degree) a sense of entitlement to it.
He was drafted by us and made the team as an 18 year old, was under Captain Scotty’s wing living with him as a rookie, getting blue balled by wearing an “A” (lol) and management kinda having a soft spot for him, with a big contract and not trading him when he should have been around 2015-17.
Hockey Duckie
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Out of our youths, LaCombe is probably our best defensive d-man.
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FlyingV09
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Time will tell if he ends up the best defensive defenseman, but he did absolutely nothing to prove that last year.
Hockey Duckie
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I should have added at this moment and near future.
As for last year, it wasn't like he was thrusted into RD1 to shelter Minty, Luneau, and Vaak as well as keep Gudas' minutes down.
Here's how LaCombe, Minty, and Zell finished their last 22, 23 games in the NHL last year. Minty missed the last eight games of the season due to injury, which ensured LaCombe in a top-4 role. And before Minty's injury, LaCombe was his partner for seven games, where Minty had +0 rating during that game set.
| Ducks | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | Game set | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | +/- | Hits | Blocks | Comments | |
| LaCombe | 49 to 71 | 23 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 0.35 | 1 | 12 | 44 | From Feb 19 to Apr 18 | |
| Minty | 41 to 63 | 23 | 2 | 7 | 9 | 0.39 | -9 | 29 | 22 | from Feb 13 to Mar 30 | |
| Zell | 5 to 26 | 22 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 0.36 | -8 | 10 | 33 | From Mar 1 to Apr 18 |
| Minty | two splits | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Game Set | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | +/- | Hits | Blocks | Comment | |
| Total | 63 | 4 | 24 | 28 | 0.44 | -20 | 85 | 65 | Total | |
| 1 to 20 | 20 | 1 | 10 | 11 | 0.55 | -1 | 30 | 24 | 3rd pair | |
| 21 to 63 | 43 | 3 | 14 | 17 | 0.40 | -19 | 55 | 41 | top-4 minutes |
| Minty | Multi | Splits | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Game Set | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | +/- | Hits | Blocks | Pair | |
| 1 to 63 | 63 | 4 | 24 | 28 | 0.44 | -20 | 85 | 65 | . | |
| 1 to 20 | 20 | 1 | 10 | 11 | 0.55 | -1 | 30 | 24 | Lybush 3rd pair | |
| 21 to 40 | 20 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 0.40 | -10 | 26 | 19 | Lyubush, 2nd P, injury | |
| 41 to 47 | 7 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 0.57 | -2 | 10 | 2 | Lyubush | |
| 48 to 55 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0.25 | -5 | 6 | 13 | Gudas, top pair | |
| 56 to 62 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 0.43 | 0 | 11 | 7 | LaCombe | |
| 63 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.00 | -2 | 2 | 0 | Lindstrom |
robbieboy3686
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Srsly, i can’t believe I just read that . There is no fing way that lacombe is the best defensive dman of the youngsters.
FlyingV09
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LaCombe is 2-3 years older than any of Luneau, Zellweger, and Mintyukov. More should be expected of him and he didn’t fare any better. Also, your graphs prove nothing.I should have added at this moment and near future.
As for last year, it wasn't like he was thrusted into RD1 to shelter Minty, Luneau, and Vaak as well as keep Gudas' minutes down.
Here's how LaCombe, Minty, and Zell finished their last 22, 23 games in the NHL last year. Minty missed the last eight games of the season due to injury, which ensured LaCombe in a top-4 role. And before Minty's injury, LaCombe was his partner for seven games, where Minty had +0 rating during that game set.
Ducks Player Game set Games G A Pts PPG +/- Hits Blocks Comments LaCombe 49 to 71 23 1 7 8 0.35 1 12 44 From Feb 19 to Apr 18 Minty 41 to 63 23 2 7 9 0.39 -9 29 22 from Feb 13 to Mar 30 Zell 5 to 26 22 2 6 8 0.36 -8 10 33 From Mar 1 to Apr 18
Minty two splits Game Set Games G A Pts PPG +/- Hits Blocks Comment Total 63 4 24 28 -20 85 65 Total 1 to 20 20 1 10 11 -1 30 24 3rd pair 21 to 63 43 3 14 17 -19 55 41 top-4 minutes
Minty Multi Splits Game Set Games G A Pts PPG +/- Hits Blocks Pair 1 to 63 . 1 to 20 Lybush 3rd pair 21 to 40 Lyubush, 2nd P, injury 41 to 47 Lyubush 48 to 55 Gudas, top pair 56 to 62 LaCombe 63 Lindstrom
I haven’t read that much into the details but I feel like for an org that is so tight lipped, it’s possible that Cam requested a trade 1-2 years ago and nothing has happened since then. Whether you think he’s in the right or wrong and I know he’s the whipping boy on these boards, for me it’s gonna be sad to see him go. A ducks lifer and the last piece of the getzy mid 2010s era. Thanks for always being a class act Cam
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Cam should’ve been part of the Manson-Rakell-Lindholm swaps years ago. It’s tough to see him go but the promising defenders give me some hope
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We shoulda moved Cam the moment he made that ridiculously soft play in the playoffs vs nashville.
Anaheim4ever
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Playing for 14 years with the team that drafted him and is the longest tenured player on the team it might hurt to be told ur not gonna be captain and they may reserve alternates for others over him as well such as Vatrano and Killorn/Strome. Gudas C, Vatrano A, Killorn/Strome A.
Cam is a true class act and genuinely seems like a really nice guy. Maybe he's too nice and that's why he doesn't hit ? I think if anything his feelings would he hurt instead of being angry about it, I'm sure he knows they want a captain with swagger, who stands up and leads the pack.
Maybe his reaction to not being captain:
Hell, this org is so tight-lipped that Cam could have retired 5 years ago and they've been using a body double and we wouldn't know until 2036.
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