I wouldn't trade any of those 4 for Thompson.
Because Tage has a long, reasonable contract, that would be very hard for him to massively underperform on, makes it unlikely BUF would want to move him.
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I love Zegras and McTavish but I would drive either of them to the airport myself for Tage Thompson straight up
Agree Buffalo is unlikely to move him
Agree Buffalo is unlikely to move him
CrazyDuck4u
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I see the Lenuea is tearing it up in the AHL.. All I know is this.. If ducks were to make a significant trade to bring in a legit scoring threat. One of Zellwegger or Helleson is gonna go .. Thats the honest truth.. Its starting to look like. Sennecke might make the team next year..
Assuming we don't win the lottery, I'd trade our 1st and Zellweger for a good young forward. Not sure who's available, but get a good wing and we could have 4 solid lines. I'm not sure if Sennecke makes the team if we make a move, though. He's not a 4th liner and adding him and another forward would push one of Killorn or Strome to 4th line. Even without Sennecke, Colangelo might be pushing for a spot too. He should be taking Fabbri's spot after the deadline. I'm guessing we'll see
Vatrano Strome Terry
Gauthier McTavish Colangelo
Zegras Carlsson Killorn
Add Sennecke and a good forward and you can make a "4th line" with Killorn and Strome and run a team with no real top line but no real 4th line. Spread the minutes around through out the season, play the hot line more in any individual game.
McDonald19
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That’s a good problem to have. If Sennecke is so good in camp and preseason that he forces his way into a top 6 role opening night.
Dr Johnny Fever
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I'd much prefer Sennecke start next year in the A, regardless of the camp he has. Can we please stop trying to develop everybody in the NHL?
Absolutely, and with if we do push Killorn and Strome down, that's not a real 4th line, that's more of a 3rd line. And if you're running McTavish, Zegras, and Carlsson down the middle that's (Ideally) three second lines so Sennecke would be with talented guys no matter where he plays. Hopefully he earns a spot and isn't just given one.
WhatTheDuck
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He's not eligible for the AHL next year
DavidBL
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I do wonder if they file for exceptional status like the Kraken did with Wright(?). It was new and it was granted. That would be ideal imo.
McDonald19
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Unfortunately he isn’t AHL eligible. It would be unusual for a top 3 pick, who is scoring at a tremendous pace, to be returned to juniors a second year.
Doubt it.
There were a lot of factors in the Wright situation, 1 of which being Covid.
Sennecke is good but it isn't like he is doubling the next guy in points and there aren't those extra factors like Wright had.
Sennecke was drafted as a project that would be the BPA in 5 years. I see no reason to rush him to the NHL. Obviously the AHL would be better, but for once can we please let a top forward prospect actually play 2 his D+2 not in the NHL and see how they turn out.
Dr Johnny Fever
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OK, you got me. I should have checked first.
I'd still probably lean to sending him back unless he has on hell of a camp.
WhatTheDuck
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It's an unfortunate situation that it forces us into. 100% has to look ready but they will likely use the 9 game trial and drag it out as long as possible like we've seen in the past. Can be sent down to the AHL for a "conditioning stint" if out of the NHL lineup for a certain number of days, buying some extra time. They'll likely make a call heading into WJC camp time on whether he's an NHLer for the rest of the year. Can also look at an unconventional route such as a top European league for the year.
Ultimately I remain optimistic that Sennecke A) puts on a good 10+ lbs this off season and comes into camp at 205+
B) leaves no doubt that he's an NHL player right from day one of camp
Dr Johnny Fever
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That all makes sense and is exactly how we handled Luneau. Dragging out his return is an excellent choice IMO. But with 20/20 hindsight I am quite disappointed in how Leo has been developed and I don't want to see a repeat of that.
It's also exceedingly rare for a #3 overall pick not to get in a significant number of NHL games in their D+2 year. I only went back 15 years, but unless I missed someone, the only #3 OA who wasn't in the NHL full time by their D+2 was Dylan Strome.
I think Sennecke would have to be very clearly NOT ready for him to miss the roster next season. I think if he's on the bubble, he'll be with the Ducks.
I think Sennecke would have to be very clearly NOT ready for him to miss the roster next season. I think if he's on the bubble, he'll be with the Ducks.
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JonathnTaylorTavares
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I read every word of this post and found the last two paragraphs especially insightful
If Sennecke and Colangelo both EARN spots in the lineup, it'll make things interesting. Who gets bumped out of the top 9, Strome or Killorn? Terry, Sennecke, and Colangelo all only play RW (I think), so that's your right side. McTavish and Zegras have been played at LW and C. Killorn is stapled to Carlsson even if it doesn't work so that means Strome becomes our 4C? Even less spots if Verbeek goes after a big FA. Personally, I think only Marner and Rantanen make sense since they are legit stars.
WhatTheDuck
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If Sennecke is in the lineup, we may need to employ a third scoring line that gets sheltered a bit. Maybe you play him on a "kid line" with Cutter and Leo, giving them a ton of offensive starts. Then you really need three other lines who can play in all situations.
If I'm Verbeek, I approach 25/26 with the intention that Sennecke is back in junior. If he has blow out training camp I'd give him 4-5 games to see if he can continue that in the regular season. If he does, I'd get him to 9 games and then make a decision. But he would have to exceed expectations every step of the way. In hindsight, the Ducks rushed Drysdale, McTavish, Carlsson, and Zellweger with mixed results on all four. No need to do it again with Sennecke unless he is very very ready.
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They were some of my best work, but I deleted them, lest I foment jealousy among those who are not executive members of the Department of Redundancy Department.
How do we have any idea right now whether giving Sennecke a 10th game would be rushing him? We don't know how he'll progress over the rest of the season, how he'll progress over the summer, how he'll look in training camp, or how he'll look in those (theoretical) first nine games.
The only things we know right now are that he's doing very well this season in juniors and that, historically, it's incredibly rare for 3rd overall picks to go back to juniors in their D+2 season. That indicates to me that it's unlikely he'd be rushed with more than nine games next season, pending his development over the next nine months.
Look at post 5294 where I lay out exactly how I would approach Sennecke next year if I were Verbeek. Your mileage may vary.
That's fine, but as I pointed out above, that would be a rare approach to a #3 overall pick who has proven he can dominate juniors. Is there any particular reason why you think Sennecke needs more development given his production and pedigree?
