Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread

[gilfaizon]

Its frustrating at this moment... but i think PV has a plan... and going to take advantage of cap situations of other teams.

Prob would rather find cap causalities signed for 1-3 years rather than have to be locked in for 5-7 years on guys... and give us a tough time when our big contract summer comes up

I've been waiting for PV to weaponize cap space for a couple of years now. I've always ended up disappointed. The cap increase really made things easier for a lot of teams.

 

[JAHV]

I really don't want to have to talk myself into Trouba, Laine, or DeAngelo. All of those guys frustrate me, although, of the three, I guess Laine would frustrate me the least.

DeAngelo is a hard no.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I just dont see many ways out for Colorado(unless they can find a girard trad epartner.

I don’t either, and I’d love for Manson to come back, but I’m just relaying what he said on his podcast. I do hope you’re right, thoughz

 

[robbieboy3686]

I really don't want to have to talk myself into Trouba, Laine, or DeAngelo. All of those guys frustrate me, although, of the three, I guess Laine would frustrate me the least.

DeAngelo is a hard no.

No chance Deangelo comes our way

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Kind of want Pat to sign some random AHLer, just for the reactions lol

 

[gilfaizon]

Kind of want Pat to sign some random AHLer, just for the reactions lol

The organization does like to announce AHL signings all at once, so this wouldn't surprise me at all.

Desharnais to the Nucks. Another target down.

 

[Leonardo87]

When you guys are asking for Trouba and DeAngelo…I don’t know what to even say. That “bar” has really fallen into the ground, huh?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Kind of want Pat to sign some random AHLer, just for the reactions lol

The Bob Murray special, Verbeek will sign Sean Liam MacFlaherty O'Shannanhan to an AHL deal.

 

[Gliff]

Maybe these players just don't want to lose over half their paycheck to pay on a bottom 5 team.

I’m getting mildly annoyed at these comments. It’s like 6.2% that they will be taxed more than states with no income tax. It isn’t half or even half of half, or even half of that.

 

[duckaroosky]

Kind of want Pat to sign some random AHLer, just for the reactions lol

Ah, a fellow chaos connoisseur.

 

[ducks8]

Its frustrating at this moment... but i think PV has a plan... and going to take advantage of cap situations of other teams.

Prob would rather find cap causalities signed for 1-3 years rather than have to be locked in for 5-7 years on guys... and give us a tough time when our big contract summer comes up

Oh it's definitely frustrating. But I'm glad he stayed away from most of these contracts.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I don’t even know if I’d say we’re staying away from offering the type of money that’s being handed out. Feels like these guys just want to play elsewhere. Verbeek hasn’t shied away from going after bigger names thru FA.

 

[AngelDuck]

I’m getting mildly annoyed at these comments. It’s like 6.2% that they will be taxed more than states with no income tax. It isn’t half or even half of half, or even half of that.

6.2% times 5 million is 325K lost. It’s not half their paycheck but it’s not exactly chump change either. I mean, I think I might rather pocket that 325K too

Once again, it’s not the defining factor for why guys don’t come here. But it’s one of many factors

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807868189847511538

Probably should have put it in the Around the League thread, but good scoop by Seravalli here, NHL thinking they can slip that by the public on a day like today is typical

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I want things to happen but only good things!

 

[JAHV]

When you guys are asking for Trouba and DeAngelo…I don’t know what to even say. That “bar” has really fallen into the ground, huh?

For the record, I want neither. But I am at the point where I could grit my teeth and talk myself into Trouba.

 

[Leonardo87]

For the record, I want neither. But I am at the point where I could grit my teeth and talk myself into Trouba.

I think folks just want something to happen, lol. Have a feeling we bring Rico back, and I am fine with that.

 

[Static]

When you guys are asking for Trouba and DeAngelo…I don’t know what to even say. That “bar” has really fallen into the ground, huh?

I don't think trouba would be a bad add for us, even before today. Two years at $8 million is a comparable steal.

 

[Gliff]

6.2% times 5 million is 325K lost. It’s not half their paycheck but it’s not exactly chump change either. I mean, I think I might rather pocket that 325K too

Once again, it’s not the defining factor for why guys don’t come here. But it’s one of many factors

There is a huge difference between 6.2 and "half". If I had the choice to live where I wanted and make 6.2% less or live where I dont want and pay no taxes then its a complete no brainer.

Anyways, I'm just saying the taxes matter obviously, but lets not act like we have to overpay by 20% to break even.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

When you guys are asking for Trouba and DeAngelo…I don’t know what to even say. That “bar” has really fallen into the ground, huh?

I want nothing to with DeAngelo at all, but Trouba....

I wouldn't say want is the right word. We need a RHD who is capable of eating top 4 minutes + PK time, and we need some bite. In lieu of adding a true upgrade, I do think having Trouba and Gudas would be pretty miserable to play against. I'm not keen on taking the whole contract without being incentive or sending money back, but I could see us being in the conversation if he's being moved.

 

[12ozPapa]

On the tax thing, if that were the issue, currently the Ducks have the ability to overpay. I’m just not sure a bottom team in the midst of a rebuild is exciting for most players.

 

[Terry Yake]

i'm almost glad the ducks haven't done anything with these ridiculous contracts being handed out

 

[Leonardo87]

I want nothing to with DeAngelo at all, but Trouba....

I wouldn't say want is the right word. We need a RHD who is capable of eating top 4 minutes + PK time, and we need some bite. In lieu of adding a true upgrade, I do think having Trouba and Gudas would be pretty miserable to play against. I'm not keen on taking the whole contract without being incentive or sending money back, but I could see us being in the conversation if he's being moved.

Between Zegras, Gauthier, and Trouba would be one of the most hated teams in the league for sure, lol.

 

[QuackAttack90]

Did we get outbid on every player we wanted?

I don't think it means we necessarily got outbid.

For example i would not be surprised if we offered Stamkos the same 4x8 deal. The problem is that unless we are significantly overpaying for a player it is unlikely that they choose here

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Between Zegras, Gauthier, and Trouba would be one of the most hated teams in the league for sure, lol.

Zegras, Gauthier, Gudas, Trouba, pretty sure Nick Cousins is still a FA if we want to keep the hate flowing.