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Lucas Pettersson with 2 assists today.
Clara gives up 1 goal in a 2-1 win.
Clara gives up 1 goal in a 2-1 win.
Just casually throws in that Zegras is now likely to be traded.
Just casually throws in that Zegras is now likely to be traded.
Granted it's preseason but Pettersson has 1g 2a in 2 games so far for Modo in the SHL. An encouraging start.Lucas Pettersson with 2 assists today.
Clara gives up 1 goal in a 2-1 win.
McTavish has become a leader on Anaheim’s young team after a short period as a pro. He’s a well-rounded player with some major strengths and no notable flaws at the NHL level
How is he so much worse than Celebrini when they were neck and neck last year and Cutter has more size that will translate a bit better in the nhl. I know Celebrini is younger but the gap shouldn’t be that wide.He has Cutter as a Bubble top and middle of the lineup player, and last year in this ranking he was a Top of the lineup player. How does he drop tiers after being the best goal scorer and second best player in the NCAA? By being traded to Anaheim.
And cutter translates way better than Smith in the NHL.I appreciate Pronman's articles b/c he does a lot of work and gives NHL fans something to bitch about. He still has his own biases like all other NHL/prospect writers. I won't complain about the writer and his work efforts, but we can bitch about what he writes about - which is entertainment for all. Pronman does cover a helluva lot of prospects to write blurbs about, for which I'm grateful
I think Celebrini and Bedard get a huge value boost to their respective team rankings.
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Chicago's pipeline really is two players in Bedard and Lev. Korchinski struggled last season. I like San Jose's top-5 and think it's better than our top-5 because of Celebrini and Askarov. I'd actually put Askarov SJ's #2 prospect, tbh.
The problem with Pronman's assessment of Anaheim's prospect was Celebrini and Lev gave their teams a huge value boost and Sennecke didn't. Cutter Gauthier was listed #6 prospect?! Smith (71 pts), Cutter (65 pts), and Celebrini (64 pts) were the top-3 scorers in the NCAA last year, with Cutter having the most goals scored with 38 and Celebrini with 32 goals. Cutter better than SJ #6 and Chicago's #3! Zellweger has already show production at the pro level, including being an AHL All-star.
What makes Anaheim ranking #3 egregious is Pronman citing that Anaheim potentially has two #1C's in Carlsson and Mac. San Jose and Chicago can't top that value endorsement... unless you give Celebrini and Bedard extra, extra value.
Oh... and he forgot about Pastujov, but raved a bit on Sidorov. Eh tu, Brute?
I live 15 minutes from the rink, but I don’t think I can justify this.
I think it's because the rink they are playing at has very limited seating. But it's still pretty insane.What the hell....that is beyond egregious
Yeah - total respect to pronman as he’s just a guy doing a job but over the last few years I’ve had to reframe most of the athletics prospect stuff as just a professionally structured main board prospect threadDude has no idea what hes talking about. Again
Based on these players this is my totally not bias ranking.
1 | Bedard | CHI |
2 | Carlsson | ANA |
3 | Celebrini | SJS |
4 | McTavish | ANA |
5 | Cutter | ANA |
6 | Smith | SJS |
7 | Minty | ANA |
8 | Sennecke | ANA |
9 | Zellweger | ANA |
10 | Dickinson | SJS |
11 | Levshunov | CHI |
12 | Solberg | ANA |
13 | Korchinski | CHI |
14 | Askarov | SJS |
15 | Eklund | SJS |
16 | Reichel | CHI |
17 | Boisvert | CHI |
18 | Chernyshov | SJS |
19 | Sahlin-Wallenius | SJS |
20 | Rinzel | CHI |
21 | Moore | CHI |
Two young centers with high offensive ceilings and bad defensive habits, each with a penchant for taking terrible penalties.Dude has no idea what hes talking about. Again
The fact that Cutter is in his D+2 and Celebrini was in his D+0 and Celebrini won the hobey. I dont think it really matters if he was #1 or #2. He obviously should have GAINED stock, not lost stock.How is he so much worse than Celebrini when they were neck and neck last year and Cutter has more size that will translate a bit better in the nhl. I know Celebrini is younger but the gap shouldn’t be that wide.
And cutter translates way better than Smith in the NHL.
I think the top 14 are broken into these tiers (Alphabetical order).Based on these players this is my totally not bias ranking.
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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Bedard[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Celebrini[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]McTavish[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Cutter[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Smith[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Minty[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Sennecke[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Zellweger[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Dickinson[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Levshunov[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Solberg[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Korchinski[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Askarov[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Eklund[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Reichel[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Boisvert[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Chernyshov[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Sahlin-Wallenius[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Rinzel[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Moore[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Anaheim have a better prospect pool because we have had higher picks for longer than Chicago and San Jose. Without Beddard Chicago look terrible and San Jose had a HUGE offseason which completely turned their prospect pool around.
Excuse me, that Canadian once batted a puck off the goal line in a gold medal game, so he shall forever be known as defensively reliable.Two young centers with high offensive ceilings and bad defensive habits, each with a penchant for taking terrible penalties.
The loudmouth American: trade fodder, locker room cancer, no obvious place in the lineup
The boring Canadian: “no notable flaws."
The fact that Cutter is in his D+2 and Celebrini was in his D+0 and Celebrini won the hobey. I dont think it really matters if he was #1 or #2. He obviously should have GAINED stock, not lost stock.
I think the top 14 are broken into these tiers (Alphabetical order).
Tier 1
Bedard
Carlsson
Celebrini
Tier 2
Cutter
Dickinson
Levshunov
McTavish
Minty
Sennecke
Smith
Tier 3
Askarov
Eklund
Korchinski
Zellweger
To me I think Anaheim has the best group, but I cant be mad any someone picking any of these 3. Especially if they have Cutter lower, and think Sennecke was a reach.
That’s not far off for meBased on these players this is my totally not bias ranking.
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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Bedard[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Celebrini[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]McTavish[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Cutter[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Smith[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Minty[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Sennecke[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Zellweger[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Dickinson[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Levshunov[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Solberg[/TD]
[TD]ANA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Korchinski[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Askarov[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Eklund[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Reichel[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Boisvert[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Chernyshov[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Sahlin-Wallenius[/TD]
[TD]SJS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Rinzel[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Moore[/TD]
[TD]CHI[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Anaheim have a better prospect pool because we have had higher picks for longer than Chicago and San Jose. Without Beddard Chicago look terrible and San Jose had a HUGE offseason which completely turned their prospect pool around.
My only concern with Bedard is he is tiny and completely unproven in the playoffs. If there is no drop off in the playoffs then I agree he is in a tier of his own.I think Bedard should be on a tier on his own.
I live 15 minutes from the rink, but I don’t think I can justify this.
Honestly, it is shocking to me how dumb some professional sports organizations are.hOcKeY iS fOr EvErYoNe!11
That price had me change my plans, I'll stream it and not be surrounded by kings fans.Honestly, it is shocking to me how dumb some professional sports organizations are.
Especially hockey where the experience of watching on TV is totally different then being in the arena. Its such a great opportunity to get people interested. It should be worth so much more then the money they will get from the tickets.
I hope noone shows up.
My only concern with Bedard is he is tiny and completely unproven in the playoffs. If there is no drop off in the playoffs then I agree he is in a tier of his own.
It’s not an odd concern at all and the same concern that Zellweger faces. Additionally, Zellwegrr isn’t projected to be generational so there is less of an expectation.That's an odd thing to say, considering you have to produce in the regular season. You should really drop Zellweger down a few notches or outside the list if size and in the playoffs is a thing for consistency sake. Anyhow, it's an under-23 ranking.
NHL rookies last year
Bedard: 68 games, 61 pts
Carlsson: 55 games, 29 pts
Fantilli: 49 games, 27 pts
Bedard looks like a tier ahead Carlsson and Fantilli today, AINEC. Appears he's more durable and more offensively dynamic than Carlsson and Fantilli. Talking about playoff performance seems like a farfetched, moving the goal post standard.
It’s not an odd concern at all and the same concern that Zellweger faces. Additionally, Zellwegrr isn’t projected to be generational so there is less of an expectation.
THW | top-100 | prospect skaters |
---|---|---|
Rank | Pos | Skater |
14 | LW | Cutter |
24 | RW | Sennecke |
52 | LD | Solberg |
100 | RD | Luneau |
Other than a couple words here and there, I don’t think they bothered to update Cutter’s scouting report.The Hockey Writer's put out their top-100 prospect skaters. Here are the criteria for this list: “A player is considered a prospect if he has played less than 25 games in one NHL campaign (regular season and playoffs combined), less than 50 NHL games total in their career, and is 25 years old by Sept 15.”
The NHL's Top 100 Prospects - Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Editor's Choice Latest News, Analysis & More
Every team has articles ranking their top prospects. But how do they all compare together? This list takes a look at the top-100 prospects.thehockeywriters.com
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[TH]THW[/TH]
[TH]top-100[/TH]
[TH]prospect skaters[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rank[/TD]
[TD]Pos[/TD]
[TD]Skater[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Cutter[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Sennecke[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]52[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Solberg[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Luneau[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
They don't like Cutter's talent that much.
Other 2024 prospects ranked above Sennecke on THW's list are:
1. C Celebrini
3. RD Levshunov
6. RW Demidov
8. C Lindstrom
9. LD Buium
11. C Catton
13. RD Parekh
15. LD Silayev
16. C Iginla
20. RD Yakemchuk
22. LD Dickinson
Yikes! Guess THW doesn't like our top-2 prospects much.