Speculation: 2024-25 Coaching/Management/Ownership

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

So the one coach I would've been comfortable hiring immediately to replace Cronin was Todd McLellan. After his takeover in the Wings bench they lost his 1st game.. and they're now about to win their sixth straight. So that's neat.

Also in my academic paper called "tales of never-ending bitterness" I make a case Detroit hasn't suffered enough yet, nor will have they ever. At least until we get to playoffs as well, so stay out of the playoffs Mr Koala Bear.

I’d love to read “tales of never-ending bitterness” especially if there is a whole chapter of red wing hate. Is there also a Red Sox hate chapter ?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

So the one coach I would've been comfortable hiring immediately to replace Cronin was Todd McLellan. After his takeover in the Wings bench they lost his 1st game.. and they're now about to win their sixth straight. So that's neat.

Also in my academic paper called "tales of never-ending bitterness" I make a case Detroit hasn't suffered enough yet, nor will have they ever. At least until we get to playoffs as well, so stay out of the playoffs Mr Koala Bear.

Would have be funny just for the fact he'd have coached every Californian team.

I’d love to read “tales of never-ending bitterness” especially if there is a whole chapter of red wing hate. Is there also a Red Sox hate chapter ?

I think the Nashville Predators have taken over as most hated team. The Red Wings I can at least respectfully dislike them but the Predators are just complete bushleague divers. Those 2010s predators teams were built to beat the Ducks in the playoffs but they were not built to win the stanley cup, felt like they had no business going to the finals even once.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

 

[ScarTroy]

With Terry back I see no problem with scratching Nesterenko, especially with Colangelo being more deserving. It’s not like they scratched him for Johnston.

 

[robbieboy3686]

With Terry back I see no problem with scratching Nesterenko, especially with Colangelo being more deserving. It’s not like they scratched him for Johnston.

Big Tom Wilson has legit turned down fights v boss Ross Johnston a few times in their past. I like boss Ross drawing in here

 

[Hockey Duckie]

With Terry back I see no problem with scratching Nesterenko, especially with Colangelo being more deserving. It’s not like they scratched him for Johnston.

I dunno about that. Does this mean Colangelo will be stuck on the fourth line again? If so, then I'd rather have Nesterenko on the fourth line than Colangelo. Nesterenko fits better on the 4th line with his speed and hitting.

 

[Firequacker]

I dunno about that. Does this mean Colangelo will be stuck on the fourth line again? If so, then I'd rather have Nesterenko on the fourth line than Colangelo. Nesterenko fits better on the 4th line with his speed and hitting.

Would imagine Terry coming back bumps Fabbri back to the McTavish line and Leason back to the fourth line. Colangelo shouldn't need to be moved from the Leo line.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Would imagine Terry coming back bumps Fabbri back to the McTavish line and Leason back to the fourth line. Colangelo shouldn't need to be moved from the Leo line.

I totally forgot he was promoted to the Carlsson line! Thanks for reminding me. Then, yes, let Colangelo stick in an offensive role. I'm giddy to see what more Colangelo can do.

 

[HanSolo]

Big Tom Wilson has legit turned down fights v boss Ross Johnston a few times in their past. I like boss Ross drawing in here

Tom Wilson declines fights from literally anyone bigger than him. That won't stop him from throwing an ugly hit or two.

 

[ScarTroy]

I dunno about that. Does this mean Colangelo will be stuck on the fourth line again? If so, then I'd rather have Nesterenko on the fourth line than Colangelo. Nesterenko fits better on the 4th line with his speed and hitting.

Looks like @Firequacker was thinking what I was. I think Colangelo deserves an extended look with Carlsson.

 

[ADHB]

Derek Lee posted the projected lines based on the morning skate, and Colangelo is on Leo's line with Killorn.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I split the last 25 games into 5-game sets. The 4 wins out of 5 games against the Oil, Devils, Jets, and Bolts really do look like an outlier.

 

[2faded]

I split the last 25 games into 5-game sets. The 4 wins out of 5 games against the Oil, Devils, Jets, and Bolts really do look like an outlier.


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I was just thinking remember a week ago when they were beating good teams and we were talking about playoffs?

Then reality slapped us in the face.

 

[LuGBuG]

I was just thinking remember a week ago when they were beating good teams and we were talking about playoffs?

Then reality slapped us in the face.

This is me remembering the Tampa win and Flames unlucky OT loss thinking playoff WC push.

 

[Rooch]

I've believed all along that the Ducks are timing the restocking and peak performance of this team to coincide with the opening of OCVibe. What would be the point of coming to see this new "downtown Anaheim" if the team its centered around sucks? But holy smokes. The Ducks are bordering on unwatchable right now. The incessant line juggling and healthy scratches of exciting young players is maddening and I can't help but feel Verbeek is asleep at the wheel.

I now think the upcoming trade deadline has to be make or break for our GM. Aside from the serendipitous acquisitions of Cutter and Trouba, Pat has shown very little aptitude for team-building. If progress isn't made soon and we remain and unserious, sporadically competitive hockey club, I don't see how Verbeek keeps his job. At the very least, Cronin needs to be flushed.

 

[91Fedorov]

I keep coming here hoping for news. FIRE HIM!

 

[Mr Rogers]

I've believed all along that the Ducks are timing the restocking and peak performance of this team to coincide with the opening of OCVibe. What would be the point of coming to see this new "downtown Anaheim" if the team its centered around sucks? But holy smokes. The Ducks are bordering on unwatchable right now. The incessant line juggling and healthy scratches of exciting young players is maddening and I can't help but feel Verbeek is asleep at the wheel.

I now think the upcoming trade deadline has to be make or break for our GM. Aside from the serendipitous acquisitions of Cutter and Trouba, Pat has shown very little aptitude for team-building. If progress isn't made soon and we remain and unserious, sporadically competitive hockey club, I don't see how Verbeek keeps his job. At the very least, Cronin needs to be flushed.

I don’t think Verbeek is under the gun at all from ownership. I don’t think Cronin comes back next year but I’ll bet he finishes out this year.

 

[JAHV]

I don’t think Verbeek is under the gun at all from ownership. I don’t think Cronin comes back next year but I’ll bet he finishes out this year.

I think this is right. Verbeek is going to get five years, and I actually agree with that. A GM who's thrust into the middle of a messy rebuild situation should get that much time, unless things get really bad (more than just on-ice struggles). The owners are not reactionary, to a fault, as we saw with Murray.

And Verbeek is going to let Cronin play out the year, again, unless things get really bad. If we treat all the negative rumors as true, then perhaps they already are. But I doubt the locker room is as big a dumpster fire as muckraking podcasters would have us believe. Still, Cronin is clearly not effective at producing either an entertaining or successful on-ice performance, and even Verbeek has to see that.

I just hope Verbeek isn't gearing up for Derek Lalonde.

 

[Gliff]

I've believed all along that the Ducks are timing the restocking and peak performance of this team to coincide with the opening of OCVibe. What would be the point of coming to see this new "downtown Anaheim" if the team its centered around sucks? But holy smokes. The Ducks are bordering on unwatchable right now. The incessant line juggling and healthy scratches of exciting young players is maddening and I can't help but feel Verbeek is asleep at the wheel.

I now think the upcoming trade deadline has to be make or break for our GM. Aside from the serendipitous acquisitions of Cutter and Trouba, Pat has shown very little aptitude for team-building. If progress isn't made soon and we remain and unserious, sporadically competitive hockey club, I don't see how Verbeek keeps his job. At the very least, Cronin needs to be flushed.

Seems like a funny time to complain about his team building.

Vatrano has been an amazing signing.
Gudas has been an amazing signing.
Strome is playing at an almost 50 point pace this year.
Trouba has been fantastic since being acquired.
Add on the Gauthier trade and smart low risk additions of Fabbri and Dumoulin that have payed off in a big way and IDK what else you want.

Killorn was a bad contract. We get it. That doesn't wipe away the good signing/acquisitions he has made.

Cronin sucks. It was a terrible hire from the start. That is by far the biggest black eye on PV's resume so far.

 

[91Fedorov]

And Verbeek is going to let Cronin play out the year, again, unless things get really bad. If we treat all the negative rumors as true, then perhaps they already are. But I doubt the locker room is as big a dumpster fire as muckraking podcasters would have us believe. Still, Cronin is clearly not effective at producing either an entertain.

I think you're right. But that said, how bad should it have to get? Last in goals, last in shots against, last in PP% and last in face-offs to boot. As long as he doesn't punch a player he keeps his job? PV looks out of touch letting this continue.

 

[HanSolo]

Seems like a funny time to complain about his team building.

Vatrano has been an amazing signing.
Gudas has been an amazing signing.
Strome is playing at an almost 50 point pace this year.
Trouba has been fantastic since being acquired.
Add on the Gauthier trade and smart low risk additions of Fabbri and Dumoulin that have payed off in a big way and IDK what else you want.

Killorn was a bad contract. We get it. That doesn't wipe away the good signing/acquisitions he has made.

Cronin sucks. It was a terrible hire from the start. That is by far the biggest black eye on PV's resume so far.

Idk that I'd agree on Gudas lately but he did fill a need for a physical presence on the back end which he delivers even in games where he's subpar.

 

[Gliff]

Idk that I'd agree on Gudas lately but he did fill a need for a physical presence on the back end which he delivers even in games where he's subpar.

After a year where he played way above his contract, as well as filled a huge need like you said. Not to mention the impact he had in the lockeroom that made him captain.

IDK what else you want out of a 3x4 mil defensemen.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think you're right. But that said, how bad should it have to get? Last in goals, last in shots against, last in PP% and last in face-offs to boot. As long as he doesn't punch a player he keeps his job? PV looks out of touch letting this continue.

Responsibility for 2024-25

• 31st in goals: Cronin (a Verbeek hire)
• 22nd in shots: Cronin (a Verbeek hire)
• 31st in PP%: Clune (a Verbeek hire)
• 28th in PK%: Thompson (a Verbeek hire)
• Last in FO%: Verbeek is in charge of the roster

Verbeek was ecstatic about last season's production under Cronin. This year seems on par to last year, except we are projected to earn more points this year.

Responsibility for 2023-24

• 30th in goals: Cronin (a Verbeek hire)
• 29th shots: Cronin (a Verbeek hire)
• 23rd in PP%: Brown
• 31st in PK%: Thompson (a Verbeek hire)
• 29th in FO%: Verbeek is in charge of the roster

PV isn't out of touch if he doesn't see he's out of touch. When reporter Lisa Dillman was questioning Verbeek after firing Eakins, she asked something like, "Are you going to self-evaluate?" Verbeek took offense to the question like he cannot do wrong. I can't find the video online anymore.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Idk that I'd agree on Gudas lately but he did fill a need for a physical presence on the back end which he delivers even in games where he's subpar.

He was by and large our best dman last season. And we only gave him 3 years. He’s our captain now. I know what you’re saying, but for all and all purpose it was a good signing.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He was by and large our best dman last season. And we only gave him 3 years. He’s our captain now. I know what you’re saying, but for all and all purpose it was a good signing.

Gudas was great last year with whoever he sheltered. Although, I think we broke him later into the season when he was forced to play 20+ minutes a game. This year, he's not as great as last year, but he's serviceable and physical. He has one year left on his contract. Paired with LaCombe, Gudas allows LaCombe to be able to jump in offensively more often knowing Gudas will stay back. LaCombe is blossoming despite Gudas kinda bringing him down on defensive metrics. I think Gudas did his job on a dev team playing top-4 minutes when he is a 3rd pairing guy on a playoff team.