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Dr Johnny Fever

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bruce is old and he's not a coach you hire for a rebuilding, young team anyways
A few weeks ago that would have been my response too. But now I'm at the point where I'd just be happy having Bruce entertain me if nothing else. None of this "I don't know" shit.

The classic line..."If you want it, don't just think you want it, go out and f***in' want it!"

 

Smirnov2Chistov

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A few weeks ago that would have been my response too. But now I'm at the point where I'd just be happy having Bruce entertain me if nothing else. None of this "I don't know" shit.

The classic line..."If you want it, don't just think you want it, go out and f***in' want it!"



Bruce makes you want to run through a wall for his teams.

Cronin? Not so much..
 
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Gliff

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bruce is old and he's not a coach you hire for a rebuilding, young team anyways
Why? What makes him a bad coach for a young team? He is only 7 years older then Cronin lol. He has proven time and time again he is able to get the best out of players. We have the talent, just need guys to develop and play to their potential.

Cronin is a teacher, a guy you would think would be perfect for a young team. We see how that has turned out.

Do what the Canucks did. Give him the rest of the year to see what he can do with this team.
 
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Terry Yake

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Why? What makes him a bad coach for a young team? He is only 7 years older then Cronin lol. He has proven time and time again he is able to get the best out of players. We have the talent, just need guys to develop and play to their potential.

Cronin is a teacher, a guy you would think would be perfect for a young team. We see how that has turned out.

Do what the Canucks did. Give him the rest of the year to see what he can do with this team.
he's a coach you bring in when you're ready to contend for the playoffs and this team isn't anywhere near that point

not to mention that canucks team had far more talent than this ducks team does
 

DavidBL

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he's a coach you bring in when you're ready to contend for the playoffs and this team isn't anywhere near that point

not to mention that canucks team had far more talent than this ducks team does
I'd disagree. BBs success was always regular season. Playoffs is where he struggles.

On a separate note, what really concerns me are the comments from Lybushkin, which feel accurate looking at the team, and those from Cronin praising Johnson. To me these combine that the kids aren't buying into what Cronin is selling and Cronins methods to try and get the buy in seem to be hurting his cause.
 

Terry Yake

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I'd disagree. BBs success was always regular season. Playoffs is where he struggles.

On a separate note, what really concerns me are the comments from Lybushkin, which feel accurate looking at the team, and those from Cronin praising Johnson. To me these combine that the kids aren't buying into what Cronin is selling and Cronins methods to try and get the buy in seem to be hurting his cause.
.....exactly. i didn't say you bring him in to win a cup
 

Kalv

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I'd disagree. BBs success was always regular season. Playoffs is where he struggles.

On a separate note, what really concerns me are the comments from Lybushkin, which feel accurate looking at the team, and those from Cronin praising Johnson. To me these combine that the kids aren't buying into what Cronin is selling and Cronins methods to try and get the buy in seem to be hurting his cause.
Exactly. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for this season, but its clear not much have changed. He seems to be hurting us way more than he's helping
 

TheGoodShepard1

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Just to put this in perspective: Kaprizov, Makar, and Sam Reinhart all have 21 POINTS individually, and MacKinnon, Kucherov and Mark Stone all have 20. This core group might turn out to be a dud (I'm certainly not saying there's a Makar on our backend), but the system doesn't even give them a fighting chance to even be competitive offensively most nights.
 

potatopieee

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Remember all of the big talk Verbeek slung around last year about signing big FAs and competing for the playoffs this season? Where's that confidence now, Pat? And where is the accountability for your mouth having written checks that your abysmal general managing skills can't cash?

Props on the attempts to mollify the fan base with bright new unis and the very evident OCVibe construction, but the core problem remains: the product on the ice is total garbage. We haven't seen the postseason since 2017. Seven years of failure. Have you no pride?

If you have to blow this turd up and start over on personnel, do it. Just do something besides repackaging the same lackluster, disorganized, uninspired hockey team and telling us it'll be different this year.
2018*
 

TheDarkWingThatDucks

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Genuine question here, what exactly qualifies Rich Clune to be an assistant coach?
If I had to guess,

“In his first season behind the bench with the Marlies after joining partway through the 2023-24 campaign, Clune helped the Marlies to a Calder Cup Playoffs berth. The Marlies posted a 26-21-8 record after he joined as an Assistant Coach, while improving the power play dramatically from 13.0% (10-77) when he arrived to 21.9% (43-196) the remaining 55 games.”
 

TheDarkWingThatDucks

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I also think it was fairly classless to pick up Eakins option year under the guise of of evaluating him and then completely sewering him with the roster he did + the pressuring prospects to go to Florida on their own dime to go to his training guru
I agree with the Florida thing, but you don’t hire a coach you want to keep when the best thing for the franchise is to tank for freaking Conor Bedard. Plus the Leo / Fantilli as the backups. 2 extremely talented prospect and a franchise player. You leave the lame duck head coach, and roster that AHL defense all day.
 
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MMC

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I also think it was fairly classless to pick up Eakins option year under the guise of of evaluating him and then completely sewering him with the roster he did + the pressuring prospects to go to Florida on their own dime to go to his training guru
It was "classless" to employ a guy who no one else wanted to have as an NHL head coach in that role for an additional year? I'd argue it was rather generous. I don't know why people won't just admit they don't like PV rather than come up with these hilarious narratives
 

ohcomeonref

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Just to put this in perspective: Kaprizov, Makar, and Sam Reinhart all have 21 POINTS individually, and MacKinnon, Kucherov and Mark Stone all have 20. This core group might turn out to be a dud (I'm certainly not saying there's a Makar on our backend), but the system doesn't even give them a fighting chance to even be competitive offensively most nights.

Well this is depressing. Fire Cronin.
 
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Hockey Duckie

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It was "classless" to employ a guy who no one else wanted to have as an NHL head coach in that role for an additional year? I'd argue it was rather generous. I don't know why people won't just admit they don't like PV rather than come up with these hilarious narratives

"Classess" was being catfished into a reset rebuild. From Detroit News:

Named general manager of the Anaheim Ducks on Thursday, Verbeek is going to an organization in third place in the Pacific Division, in a wild-card spot, and past the early stages of the rebuild phase.
"This team doesn't need to be rebuilt; they're in the middle of their rebuild, so this is a great opportunity to take this team forward and turn them into a contender," Verbeek said during his introductory press conference. "You don't have to come in there and look to take a long time. There's good players in the NHL, good players in the minors and there are players that have been drafted. There's a lot coming to support the growth of this team. That's truly what I'm excited about."

Welp, we just gotta ride out the 5-year rebuild plan that Verbeek cited as a timeline and hope for the best. We're in year 3 of the reset, looking like two years of disparaging offense, and heading for a third top-3 pick in the draft. Still hoping for some kind of turnaround, but the chances of that occurring this season is as likely as an anchor floating.
 
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