GDT: 2024-2025 Training Camp

[AuroraBorealis]

Ludvid is guttertrash

 

[SomeDude]

So stoked we went out and got more vanilla vets because we certainly don’t have any players in the organization capable of filling those roles for league minimum.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Nylander was better than Bemstrom. That's not saying much though.

Bemstrom is the most invisible Penguins player I've ever witnessed.

 

[Empoleon8771]

They shouldn't be making roster decisions based on this, but I'm almost inclined to keep Brunicke up simply so we don't have to see any of Clurman, Kral, Ludvig or Shea in the NHL. The AHL group of defensemen for the Penguins just look awful.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

So stoked we went out and got more vanilla vets because we certainly don’t have any players in the organization capable of filling those roles for league minimum.

Imagine seeing spots blocked by players like Hayes, Glass (sort of), etc and we have some better youth in the system that should get those minutes instead.

I wish Hallander would come back and be actually used by the Penguins, for one.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Imagine seeing spots blocked by players like Hayes, Glass (sort of), etc and we have some better youth in the system that should get those minutes instead.

I wish Hallander would come back and be actually used by the Penguins, for one.

Who is being blocked by Hayes and Glass exactly? Who are these "better youth" in the system that aren't being given a chance?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

They shouldn't be making roster decisions based on this, but I'm almost inclined to keep Brunicke up simply so we don't have to see any of Clurman, Kral, Ludvig or Shea in the NHL. The AHL group of defensemen for the Penguins just look awful.

So what you're telling me is that they're executing the Sullivan system perfectly.

Who is being blocked by Hayes and Glass exactly? Who are these "better youth" in the system that aren't being given a chance?

I said Glass, sort of. If you just remove Hayes, you slot Glass into the 3c or 4c role, you open a wing spot up for one of the lads.

Beauvillier, Crosby, Rust
Bunting, Malkin, Rakell
O'Connor, Glass/Eller, Puustinen
Lizotte/Gruden, Eller/Glass, Acciari - Sully horny.


Doc/Eller/Puus can be a very good line, they were essentially "Sully proof" when kept together, but Doc kept getting moved up and down and even with Smith it was still pretty decent.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Groats really should have like 5 or 6 goals this preseason. His awareness and ability to consistently recognize where to be especially around the net is impressive. He does everything but put it away so far... which is extremely encouraging because it's hard NOT to see him as a surefire NHLer. But that whole "finishing at the NHL level" thing can be a doozy.

It would be so Penguins if finishing ends up being the difference between Groats being a top six player and a depth energy kind of guy. This team seems allergic to natural goal scorers.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I said Glass, sort of. If you just remove Hayes, you slot Glass into the 3c or 4c role, you open a wing spot up for one of the lads.

Beauvillier, Crosby, Rust
Bunting, Malkin, Rakell
O'Connor, Glass/Eller, Puustinen
Lizotte/Gruden, Eller/Glass, Acciari - Sully horny.

Glass is probably a healthy scratch, since Puljujarvi likely took his spot.

Right now, it seems like they're sitting with:

O'Connor-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rakell
McGroarty-Hayes-Puljujarvi
Lizotte-Eller-Acciari
Glass-Beauvillier

There aren't any young guys being blocked by Hayes in this, the only young guys "being blocked" are being blocked by McGroarty and Puljujarvi (and they're blocked because McGroarty and Puljujarvi are better).

 

[Ugene Magic]

Hayes...

 

[Andy99]

Groats really should have like 5 or 6 goals this preseason. His awareness and ability to consistently recognize where to be especially around the net is impressive. He does everything but put it away so far... which is extremely encouraging because it's hard NOT to see him as a surefire NHLer. But that whole "finishing at the NHL level" thing can be a doozy.

It would be so Penguins if finishing ends up being the difference between Groats being a top six player and a depth energy kind of guy. This team seems allergic to natural goal scorers.

Sullivan’s not big on scoring goals. Corsi is all that matters lol

 

[Ryder71]

Eller should be third line center, Hayes 4th.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Of course I call out hayes, scores an ENG

 

[AuroraBorealis]

He does everything but put it away so far...

So he'll fit right in then.

 

[Ryder71]

Sullivan’s not big on scoring goals. Corsi is all that matters lol

Piitsburghs inability to finish will be the reason this team takes a a big step backward.

 

[Malkinstheman]

It's nice being able to argue about whether guys like Mcgroarty/Pono/Brunicke etc should make the lineup.

Huge improvement over complaining about guys like Zohorna/Nylander/Friedman not getting playing time

 

[Ryder71]

It's nice being able to argue about whether guys like Mcgroarty/Pono/Brunicke etc should make the lineup.

Huge improvement over complaining about guys like Zohorna/Nylander/Friedman not getting playing time

Pono is injured yet again. He seems to get hurt a lot. Kinda getting annoying there.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

So he'll fit right in then.

"Yeah... you're OK. It's pretty rad that you help create tons of chances but can't score on any of them... respect. But how much can you PK?"

-Mike Sullivan probably

 

[Andy99]

Piitsburghs inability to finish will be the reason this team takes a a big step backward.

They couldn’t finish the last two seasons either at 30th and then 31st in the league…there’s not much room for them to fall any further lol

 

[Ugene Magic]

They couldn’t finish the last two seasons either at 30th and then 31st in the league…there’s not much room for them to fall any further lol

Without Jake they sure will find a way.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Of course I call out hayes, scores an ENG

That's called "The Mike Comrie."

 

[Andy99]

Without Jake they sure will find a way.

I mean, they can fall to 32nd sure and I’m sure they will if Sullivan can help it, but that won’t get them picking in the top 5 lol if they were 31 last season and missed the playoffs by a few points…I’m sure Sullivan’s incredibly exciting low event hockey will be on display in any event lol…

I rag on Jarry but he actually had a very good game tonight…good, we need it

 

[Jacob]

I’m old enough to remember when 18 year old Bissonnette almost made the team out of camp.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I’m old enough to remember when 18 year old Bissonnette almost made the team out of camp.

I remember him calling out Lebron James, Aaron Rodgers and Russel Wilson during his ALS bucket challenge.

 

[LiffLaff]

Thought McG and Pulju looked good again today, could see those guys developing some chemistry if they get more time together, both are strong along the boards and hard to knock of the puck, which has been in short supply the last few yeras. Really looking forward to see what Pickering can become, he skates so well for a big man, and could be what the Penguins likely though they were getting in Graves when they signed him, really encouraged by what I'm seeing from him so far, though he definitely has room to improve.