GDT: 2024-2025 Training Camp

[CheckingLineCenter]

WBS runs the same system Sullivan runs and I have no doubt Sullivan at least has some say (at this point) on what he'd like to see in WBS, or that he's getting insight from the WBS coach for what he'd want to run.

I think the best rebuttal to my argument is that "they're using Ponomarev and Puljujarvi like the 13th and 14th forwards based on the McGroarty-Ponomarev-Puljujarvi line", which I actually think is a valid thing to point out. I'm actually curious if that ends up being the case, I think Puljujarvi makes sense as one of the extras but keeping Ponomarev as a healthy scratch over playing in WBS (especially when you'd have to waive Puustinen to do that) seems bizarre.

Not arguing for or against any of your points besides calling those the WBS lines. I really think there’s not much to read into past the first 12 Fs, especially on the 1st day they put most of the NHL team together.

I would imagine if you go into years past, the Sullivan NHL camp “AHL” lines don’t resemble WBS’ lines in December. I’m too lazy to look right now so happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Ryder71]

That could easily break.

Dubas has focused on acquiring pieces that add size and a little more positional net front ability in Hayes, Glass and Bunting to this roster versus the usual 5’11 speedsters.

Give me a point total. How many points do you believe we will accumulate in the regular season?

 

[Ryder71]

I have no doubt this is absolutely the most negative board on here. It's downright embarrassing. I would say atleast 75% of 'fans' here want the team to lose every game. Like, I hate the fact I have to watch Jarry go and put up another stellar first half only to inevitably crash when it matters. But in the end I've gotta cheer him on. I'm legit surprised Sully is still here but I don't have the need to drone on about that fact every single day. And its just hypothetical ******* anyways. "why even draft a good player, Sully will Sully him." "Puusty/Poulin/insert prospect would be a 50 goal scorer if just coach X was here." Like go be a fan of another team if you are this damn miserable.

And yea btw. I believe we can.

How many points do you think we can have on the regular season?

 

[Nakawick]

Drew O'Connor - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Michael Bunting - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Kevin Hayes - Lars Eller - Cody Glass
Anthony Beauvillier - Blake Lizotte - Noel Acciari
Jesse Puljujarvi - Up for grabs

McGroarty, Ponomarev, Puustinen, Poulin are candidates for the last spot, and that's the order I think they are in for likelihood of making it.

I’d prefer to trade Acciari to be honest. McGroarty and Ponomarwv can be sent down.

 

[Malkinstheman]

It's unlikely but I hope the plan for the year is to sell at the deadline regardless of playoff status. You could potentially have all of Puusty, Poulin, McGoat, Pono playing in the NHL by mid season. Sell off whatever you can from the roster

 

[Nakawick]

It's unlikely but I hope the plan for the year is to sell at the deadline regardless of playoff status. You could potentially have all of Puusty, Poulin, McGoat, Pono playing in the NHL by mid season. Sell off whatever you can from the roster

Rakell is a candidate if he isn’t producing.

 

[Ryder71]

Rakell is a candidate if he isn’t producing.

If he isn't producing, with that term and salary why would anyone want him?

 

[wheelz87]

How many points do you think we can have on the regular season?

idk how many points but similar to last year. Battling somewhere in the 6-9 range in the conference. If the pp takes any leap whatsoever I don't see why not.

 

[Gurglesons]

Give me a point total. How many points do you believe we will accumulate in the regular season?

I expect us to finish top 5 in the draft.

But us winning the division wouldn't shock me.

The Metro absolutely sucks ass this year.

Rakell is a candidate if he isn’t producing.

No chance anyone is taking Rakell or Rust at their term unless it's a bad contract swap.

 

[Pancakes]

I expect us to finish top 5 in the draft.

But us winning the division wouldn't shock me.

The Metro absolutely sucks ass this year.



No chance anyone is taking Rakell or Rust at their term unless it's a bad contract swap.

Rangers and Canes should be good again. Everyone assumes the Devils will be but I mean they were real bad last year so I dunno if I'm totally sold on that happening. And the Hughes bros always have injury issues.

Could we make the playoffs? Sure. Even with Sullivan hockey if the Pens had gotten luckier on the powerplay last year they would have gotten in. A little bit of better PDO and the Pens could easily sneak in. And the Metro outside of like two teams is pretty unimpressive as you say.

I probably wouldn't put money on it but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

 

[Ryder71]

I expect us to finish top 5 in the draft.

But us winning the division wouldn't shock me.

The Metro absolutely sucks ass this year.



No chance anyone is taking Rakell or Rust at their term unless it's a bad contract swap.

Listen I need a point total, that's all I'm asking.

idk how many points but similar to last year. Battling somewhere in the 6-9 range in the conference. If the pp takes any leap whatsoever I don't see why not.

I need a number. Last year we finished with 88 I believe.

Rangers and Canes should be good again. Everyone assumes the Devils will be but I mean they were real bad last year so I dunno if I'm totally sold on that happening. And the Hughes bros always have injury issues.

Could we make the playoffs? Sure. Even with Sullivan hockey if the Pens had gotten luckier on the powerplay last year they would have gotten in. A little bit of better PDO and the Pens could easily sneak in. And the Metro outside of like two teams is pretty unimpressive as you say.

I probably wouldn't put money on it but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

Point total please.

 

[Gurglesons]

Rangers and Canes should be good again. Everyone assumes the Devils will be but I mean they were real bad last year so I dunno if I'm totally sold on that happening. And the Hughes bros always have injury issues.

Could we make the playoffs? Sure. Even with Sullivan hockey if the Pens had gotten luckier on the powerplay last year they would have gotten in. A little bit of better PDO and the Pens could easily sneak in. And the Metro outside of like two teams is pretty unimpressive as you say.

I probably wouldn't put money on it but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

Canes are awful up front. Arguably the worst forward group after the Jackets in the Metro.

Rangers are good. But not sure they are as good as they were last year with Panarin and Trochek hitting career years.

Listen I need a point total, that's all I'm asking.


I need a number. Last year we finished with 88 I believe.


Point total please.

Why? Arguing with you is like arguing with a trash can.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The Pens aren't good, but they can still hang around the WC race because the East, outside of a few select teams, is pretty much hot coiled dogshit.

I hope pixies is right though, and this is the first of several years of top-5 picks for the team.

 

[Ugene Magic]

User name checks out.

 

[Ryder71]

Why? Arguing with you is like arguing with a trash can.

First off I was asking you a question, there was no argument. Secondly comparing me to a trash can was completely uncalled for, but ok. If you feel that way I don't expect you'll be engaging me in any further back and forth.

 

[Malkinstheman]

The Pens aren't good, but they can still hang around the WC race because the East, outside of a few select teams, is pretty much hot coiled dogshit.

I hope pixies is right though, and this is the first of several years of top-5 picks for the team.

I'd love to see them make it one last time with this core but long term it's probably best they miss again imo. 3 straight misses might Sullivan canned and maybe theyd consider trading Rust/Pettersson etc

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

This is so dumb honestly. I just knew boston dumbass sullivan already had his lines predetermined before camp even started and of course they are the most stale, boring, uninspiring lines possible. What happened to this so called influx of youth in the lineup?

Sullivan's idea of influx of youth means carrying them as the 13th or 14th forward or as the injury call-up for 5 games from WBS.

What, you thought he was actually going to play them regularly in the actual lineup?

 

[Ulf5]

Not really…DK, Taylor is saying both Poulin and Puusty worked with the non NHL group at practice today…and they have an article on Puusty saying he has to score goals to stay up on the big team lol…like why is his standard scoring when Sullivan doesn’t demand that of any his bottom six players or contenders for spots? It’s ridiculous

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“• The second portion of practice moved to a clear division of NHL guys on one sheet, depth guys and prospects on the other sheet. Worth noting that Puljujarvi, Ponomarev, St. Ivany, Aho, Ludvig, Shea were among the borderline guys to skate with the NHL group. Poulin and Puustinen were among those to skate on the other sheet. Nothing's set in stone and the groups change a little bit daily, but it's something to take note of.”

“He's a guy that has good offensive instincts," Mike Sullivan said of Puustinen. "He's shown an ability to score in the American League. The next step for him is he has to score some goals in the National League.”

Fine, should be the same with everyone else…this league is about who scores the most goals…if players can’t score goals, they shouldn’t play lol…but that’s actually not a standard Sullivan uses for other players.if it was, we wouldn’t be last in finishing lol

So which sheet was McRawr on?

 

[MrBurghundy]

It's unlikely but I hope the plan for the year is to sell at the deadline regardless of playoff status. You could potentially have all of Puusty, Poulin, McGoat, Pono playing in the NHL by mid season. Sell off whatever you can from the roster

I feel like I hear this same bullshit every year, and every year it never happens. We think such and such a player will be a regular by mid season, and they are always shit on and never given a shot over has-beens and never-was players.

Until the coach is fired, absolutely nothing is going to change.

 

[Andy99]

From Taylor…lol…well at least Hayes isn’t with Eller

They're divided into a clear NHL group and a depth group. The only change in the groups from yesterday is Vasily Ponomarev is down with the depth group now.

Here's how the NHL guys lined up:

Drew O'Connor - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Michael Bunting - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Anthony Beauvillier - Lars Eller - Jesse Puljujarvi (Cody Glass rotating in)
Kevin Hayes - Blake Lizotte - Noel Acciari

Matt Grzelcyk - Kris Letang
Marcus Pettersson - Jack St. Ivany
Ryan Graves - Ryan Shea
John Ludvig - Sebastian Aho

Tristan Jarry
Alex Nedeljkovic

 

[Randy Butternubs]

From Taylor…lol…well at least Hayes isn’t with Eller

They're divided into a clear NHL group and a depth group. The only change in the groups from yesterday is Vasily Ponomarev is down with the depth group now.

Here's how the NHL guys lined up:

Drew O'Connor - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Michael Bunting - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Anthony Beauvillier - Lars Eller - Jesse Puljujarvi (Cody Glass rotating in)
Kevin Hayes - Blake Lizotte - Noel Acciari

Matt Grzelcyk - Kris Letang
Marcus Pettersson - Jack St. Ivany
Ryan Graves - Ryan Shea
John Ludvig - Sebastian Aho

Tristan Jarry
Alex Nedeljkovic

It's okay I guess. Reminds me why I wanted a top 6 LW this summer. And why I didn't want them to acquire depth/bottom 6 players.

 

[The Old Master]

I hope Puusty gets waived, picked up by another team and scores 20 goals.. and some yahoo asks Sullivan about it at a presser lol

who would even do that?

 

[Andy99]

It's okay I guess. Reminds me why I wanted a top 6 LW this summer. And why I didn't want them to acquire depth/bottom 6 players.

This team is going to be so bad with all the vanilla borderline players who can’t score populating the ranks…I’d much rather see a line of McG-Pono-Puusty in that case lol…

who would even do that?

Rob Rossi ?

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yeah all things considered that's about as good as we can expect.

I'm at least relieved they aren't trying to tinker with the first and second lines too much. I mean... don't get me wrong that's still very uninspiring but they could be way worse if the coaching staff was feeling "creative."

 

[Coastal Kev]

From Taylor…lol…well at least Hayes isn’t with Eller

They're divided into a clear NHL group and a depth group. The only change in the groups from yesterday is Vasily Ponomarev is down with the depth group now.

Here's how the NHL guys lined up:

Drew O'Connor - Sidney Crosby - Bryan Rust
Michael Bunting - Evgeni Malkin - Rickard Rakell
Anthony Beauvillier - Lars Eller - Jesse Puljujarvi (Cody Glass rotating in)
Kevin Hayes - Blake Lizotte - Noel Acciari

Matt Grzelcyk - Kris Letang
Marcus Pettersson - Jack St. Ivany
Ryan Graves - Ryan Shea
John Ludvig - Sebastian Aho

Tristan Jarry
Alex Nedeljkovic

Classic Sully: He gives lipservice to the youth and actual lips to the vets.