Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

Ceremony · 2024-10-11T12:49:52-0400

Is the waivers deadline still 12PM? We haven't claimed Lavoie?

Ceremony · 2024-10-11T12:49:52-0400

Is the waivers deadline still 12PM? We haven't claimed Kahkonen?

Bender · 2024-10-11T13:08:46-0400

henchman21 said:
In theory, pulling the rip cord would be great. It just ignores the reality of the market. There are only 2 types of goalies that are available right now. The first are the #3 sorts that teams don't want to lose, but didn't win a NHL job with them. Kolosov and Lyon types (I frankly would welcome Lyon with open arms, but I'm not under the illusion he's a legit starter). Those types don't solve the issue. They only add another Annunen type name, where George is clearly more talented than them.

The other type are guys like George. Guys who have been starters (and maybe not good ones) and struggled where teams are willing to pull the rip cord themselves. Elvis, Gibson, George, Grubauer. It is a pure bet that any of them regain form with a change of scenery. That would be the whole bet. I would probably investigate these, but the Avs have been typically hesitant to make these moves early and odds are it would be assets/cash wasted. Just would go against their MO.

Solution type guys only become available later in the season in offseasons. Markstrom could have been had last season (and the price was quite high), but it wasn't until Dec/Jan that things could really get moving. The teams that have these guys and would move them want to wait and see how their season pans out. At this point, nobody's hopes and dreams have been dashed... so teams will hold onto actual good players, playing at a high level for a while. Realistically, we're looking at January at the earlier. Maybe an odd situation plays out in December... but a couple months away from those guys.

With all of that, the Avs are going to try like hell to have Georgiev find his form. It likely won't work, or if it does, it'll only be for a short bit. They know he offers something the #3 sorts can't. The change of scenery guys might be an option, but odds are that is reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. So you push George in the meantime until a solution type guy becomes available.

All that said, and I'm certainly in the minority, I'd give Gibson a run if you could get Anaheim to retain ~2.5m. Swap George and Gibson with a sweetener. See if Gibson can find his motivation and game again.

Honestly with 3 years left at $6.4M and with his numbers the past 5 years - even though the Ducks have not been good - I don't think it should take a sweetener to acquire him unless they feel like OO or Foudy is a sweetener for them.

He's always injured too which is tough when you're backup isn't really established.

henchman21 · 2024-10-11T13:13:50-0400

Bender said:
Honestly with 3 years left at $6.4M and with his numbers the past 5 years - even though the Ducks have not been good - I don't think it should take a sweetener to acquire him unless they feel like OO or Foudy is a sweetener for them.

He's always injured too which is tough when you're backup isn't really established.

Retention tends to cost, especially ownership as cheap as Anaheim’s.

dahrougem2 · 2024-10-11T13:22:11-0400

I would take Gibson happily.

Watch the Ducks play. You can visually see the guy give up at points during the game after the 52nd slot shot by the halfway point of the 2nd.

BobRossColton · 2024-10-11T13:23:36-0400

Everyone ready for the no claim of kahkonen?

dahrougem2 said:
I would take Gibson happily.

Watch the Ducks play. You can visually see the guy give up at points during the game after the 52nd slot shot by the halfway point of the 2nd.

What would you give up for him? With retention?

Muffin · 2024-10-11T13:43:48-0400

BobRossColton said:
Everyone ready for the no claim of kahkonen?

What would you give up for him? With retention?

I highly doubt we're picking up a goalie.

Bender · 2024-10-11T13:53:03-0400

henchman21 said:
Retention tends to cost, especially ownership as cheap as Anaheim’s.

Those cheap-ass motherf***ers!!!!

hockeyfish · 2024-10-11T14:04:24-0400

Well, we did claim him!

LOFIN · 2024-10-11T14:05:03-0400

LOFIN said:
Kähkönen on waivers CMac DO IT

THANK YOU

Vaslof · 2024-10-11T14:08:54-0400

Annunen replacement I would guess.

LOFIN · 2024-10-11T14:11:03-0400

Muffin · 2024-10-11T14:27:24-0400

LOFIN said:

I wonder if the guy is physically flying back and forth lol.

Linds · 2024-10-11T14:39:30-0400

Vaslof said:
Annunen replacement I would guess.

Or hopefully a trade with 4giev coming soon

BobRossColton · 2024-10-11T14:40:28-0400

Okay Parkkila work your magic with kahkonen.

expatriatedtexan · 2024-10-11T14:59:56-0400

At what point does Georgiev's clear higher skill level/potential no longer outweigh his actual on-ice shit performances?

I get keeping him around if he was more talented than our backup. But I've got to ask the question...is he really?

Justus or the FNG should start Saturday.

Bill Peckerskull · 2024-10-11T15:00:03-0400

LOFIN said:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844803870725488838

dahrougem2 · 2024-10-11T15:05:04-0400

I think I am happier with Kahkonen than Lavoie despite Lavoie's higher upside.

Balthazar · 2024-10-11T15:11:31-0400

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844814955981549955

henchman21 · 2024-10-11T15:12:22-0400

Muffin said:
I wonder if the guy is physically flying back and forth lol.

He's getting some amazing miles!

Ceremony · 2024-10-11T15:17:57-0400

expatriatedtexan said:
At what point does Georgiev's clear higher skill level/potential no longer outweigh his actual on-ice shit performances?

About nine months ago.

henchman21 · 2024-10-11T16:13:47-0400

expatriatedtexan said:
At what point does Georgiev's clear higher skill level/potential no longer outweigh his actual on-ice shit performances?

I get keeping him around if he was more talented than our backup. But I've got to ask the question...is he really?

Justus or the FNG should start Saturday.

When the the better options come available on the trade market. We need some teams to have the bottom fall out while having a goalie that is expendable or nearing the end of their contract. Binnington and Jarry are probably most likely. The highest end is if Silovs takes the net from Demko and Vancouver has the bottom fall out. That's the type of situation the Avs really need to happen midseason.

Ararana · 2024-10-11T16:40:54-0400

Linds said:
Or hopefully a trade with 4giev coming soon

Hopefully not. I know Georgiev can really suck at times but he's better than a kähkönen/Annuenen combo.

Vaslof · 2024-10-11T16:44:02-0400

henchman21 said:
When the the better options come available on the trade market. We need some teams to have the bottom fall out while having a goalie that is expendable or nearing the end of their contract. Binnington and Jarry are probably most likely. The highest end is if Silovs takes the net from Demko and Vancouver has the bottom fall out. That's the type of situation the Avs really need to happen midseason.

If we end up with Binnington I will start rooting for the Wild.

Avs44 · 2024-10-11T16:50:17-0400

henchman21 said:
He's getting some amazing miles!

Border security must be side eyeing his travel record and thinking the man has a Vegas gambling addiction.

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