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Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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I feel like mgmt had a run where they were hitting trades out of the park and now it’s the opposite… we are just happy if the team isn’t worse with the new guy. I feel like the Avs led the new paradigm in the nhl w speed and transition but then became obsessed with it (likely because Beds only knows one way to coach) and now the rest of the league has figured it out and they can’t or won’t adapt. Feel like it’s much harder to find consisten success when you only play one specific way. As others have said in the GDT this has been one of the most frustrating seasons since they moved to Denver.
 
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dahrougem2 said:
I honestly do not have an answer for what to do.

You aren't going anywhere with pathetic plugs like Mittelstadt, Colton, and Wood occupying over 12M of cap space and giving you nothing night after night. Or a 3rd pair that belongs in the AHL playing every NHL game.

Yet if you don't make the win-now moves, you continue to waste prime years of MacKinnon and Makar, and lord knows how much Makar's next deal costs come 2026. Plus the natural regression expected for Toews, Lehkonen, and Nichushkin as they enter their mid-30s.

I don't envy CMac.

The upset Avs fan in me would punt this season, try to swap Mittelstadt for a different reclamation who can skate better (Zegras or Pinto) and pray it works, then come July 1st send Colton and Wood to whatever team offers me a 2057 conditional 7th.
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Envy Cmac? As in he’s not culpable and is cleaning someone else’s mess? He’s the one that brought in those plugs. And wasted 3 years of prime Makar/Mac.
 
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AnimalMother73 said:
I feel like mgmt had a run where they were hitting trades out of the park and now it’s the opposite… we are just happy if the team isn’t worse with the new guy. I feel like the Avs led the new paradigm in the nhl w speed and transition but then became obsessed with it (likely because Beds only knows one way to coach) and now the rest of the league has figured it out and they can’t or won’t adapt. Feel like it’s much harder to find consisten success when you only play one specific way. As others have said in the GDT this has been one of the most frustrating seasons since they moved to Denver.
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I feel completely the opposite. Blackwood, Wedgewood, Parssinen, Drury and Necas trades all look good at the moment. Only time will tell if they ultimately end up being good.
 
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Vaslof said:
I feel completely the opposite. Blackwood, Wedgewood, Parssinen, Drury and Necas trades all look good at the moment. Only time will tell if they ultimately end up being good.
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Agree to disagree I’d say at best they are batting .500 w trades and signings last two years.
 
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Pierce Hawthorne said:
Yes, lets trade for someone older, slower, and less productive then the guy we already hate.
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I have doubts an "older" O´Reilly is slower than our current, younger Mittelstadt....:confused: :D

flyfysher said:
Apparently you deserve the Pulp Fiction car cleaning scene lecture too. Told you guys so. What makes you think we should listen to you now?
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Cypher said:
The only trade that looks like crap is the trade for Mitts.

If anything, its the drafting that has cost this team. Avs literally only have 2 players on their roster that they drafted, #1 Mackinnon and #4 Makar. That's it.
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Whilst it's true that there's only two players they drafted on the roster, and I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but there's also quite a few players on the roster who were acquired via trade using players that the Avs drafted and who were key parts of their trades:

Mittelstadt: acquired with Byram
Lehkonen: Barron
Manson: Helleson
Blackwood: Kovalenko
Wedgewood: Annunen
Necas & Drury: Rantanen
Colton: picks from trading Newhook
Girard: Duchene (going back a bit too far admittedly but just including to be coherent)
 
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Foppa2118 said:
They should have known it was gonna take a big jump though. That much was known at the time.

If they add some salary to the D core, I think it may signal they realize they made a mistake, and they need to make the D core a priority again. Even if it means dedicating a large portion of the cap to it.

Which, credit to CMac, he's shown a willingness to set his ego aside for in the past, acknowledging mistakes with RJ, Tatar, and their goaltending approach. If they move Mitts it would be similar as well.
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You can’t advance in the POs without an adequate D. Just think, if the Avs had not had Byram for that SC run then they don’t win the SCC after G went down.
 
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Richard88 said:
Whilst it's true that there's only two players they drafted on the roster, and I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but there's also quite a few players on the roster who were acquired via trade using players that the Avs drafted and who were key parts of their trades:

Mittelstadt: acquired with Byram
Lehkonen: Barron
Manson: Helleson
Blackwood: Kovalenko
Wedgewood: Annunen
Necas & Drury: Rantanen
Colton: picks from trading Newhook
Girard: Duchene (going back a bit too far admittedly but just including to be coherent)
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Why doth that matter? Doth thou not see the scathing indictment it be?!
 
The Merchant said:
The AAV is whatever. Overpaid for sure. The issue is he's wasting a roster spot until he's 33 f***ing years old. 3 points in 21 games this season. THREE. Chronic back issues. Dumbass penalties. It's a problem.
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I'm pretty sure you can easily get rid of that contract if you want to. And even if you can't, just send him down and you can bury half of that caphit. I don't really see it as a problem. A mild annoyance at most.
 
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shadow1 said:
Wood's a microcosm of what's wrong with this team.

4th liner based on ability, 3rd liner based on contract and role.
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2,5M is very low end 3rd line money. More like a great 4th liner money (and when Wood is himself he is just that IMO).

I'll hold my judgement until the Xmas of 2025. Guy has had a lot of injuries, I want to see how he recovers mentally and physically.
 
Murzu said:
2,5M is very low end 3rd line money. More like a great 4th liner money (and when Wood is himself he is just that IMO).

I'll hold my judgement until the Xmas of 2025. Guy has had a lot of injuries, I want to see how he recovers mentally and physically.
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He’s always been very low IQ, and is always injured. Those aren’t bugs with Wood, those are features. Cmac knew this and still gave him the bag.
 
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Murzu said:
2,5M is very low end 3rd line money. More like a great 4th liner money (and when Wood is himself he is just that IMO).

I'll hold my judgement until the Xmas of 2025. Guy has had a lot of injuries, I want to see how he recovers mentally and physically.
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The $2.5M won't sting as much next year, but Wood said his back injury may be an issue for the rest of his career.
 
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