Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[RoyIsALegend]

Okay new plan
Get Colton to waive for NJ to acquire Mercer
Give Mercer a trial run right before TDL
Send Mercer and minor + for a retained Jones at the actual deadline


Or use Mercer+ to get Crouse+Marino

 

[lionsDen]

you know the rules Bob…

I just wish there was an ounce of thought in his proposals.

Age, pedigree are huge hurdles in this

Not to mentions it’s a down year for Mercer on a good contract

 

[EdAVSfan]

I just wish there was an ounce of thought in his proposals.

Age, pedigree are huge hurdles in this

Not to mentions it’s a down year for Mercer on a good contract

Nah I’m just messing around with him.

I got no problem with his proposals. You know why? Cause he doesn’t argue the value, doesn’t get mad if you tell him it’s no good. He’s not entrenched in his position. He Just happily throws out random ideas.

 

[Pokecheque]

What if we bring back Radar? Are the bridges burnt or can it be rebuilt?

I think he's still friends with Mack. I dunno.

Preds made it clear they’re not moving him.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Nah I’m just messing around with him.

I got no problem with his proposals. You know why? Cause he doesn’t argue the value, doesn’t get mad if you tell him it’s no good. He’s not entrenched in his position. He Just happily throws out random ideas.

Yep and really that’s all any of us can do , it’s for fun in the end .

 

[Pokecheque]

Zegras is a C. He had his two best seasons in the NHL playing mostly at the pivot. Again, injuries are a huge concern but I think he’d be perfectly fine in Bednar’s system. He has yet to play for an NHL head coach who has anything remotely resembling an offensive scheme.

 

[lionsDen]

Yep and really that’s all any of us can do , it’s for fun in the end .

sure it’s for fun and I enjoy the discussion. It’s just silly that no thought goes into it from the other side, I just think it could be better

 

[BobRossColton]

I feel like someone else mentioned Mercer and concluding we'd probably just keep him.

 

[BobRossColton]

I blame Eklund..

 

[Bender]

Zegras is a C. He had his two best seasons in the NHL playing mostly at the pivot. Again, injuries are a huge concern but I think he’d be perfectly fine in Bednar’s system. He has yet to play for an NHL head coach who has anything remotely resembling an offensive scheme.

He's not. Just because at one point a player played C it doesn't mean that's his position forever. The team went ahead and drafted Carlson and McTavish as soon as they could to make sure they'd have decent Centers going forward.

Zegras just sucks at this point, there's nothing there. It's not the team 'is holding him down' - he's frikkin' Galchenyuk at this point. No team is trading for him - at all - let alone trying to bring him in to be a center in a Top-6.

People kept suggesting it was all the coach with Galchenyuk too and as soon as he got out of there, he was going to take off. Not going to happen.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

That MacKinnon goal being his first on the PP in 44 games is a crazy stat. Wow.

 

[Richard88]

If this is possible to make happen they need to do it 100% IMO.

In:
Jones $2m retained ($7.5m)
Dumoulin 50% retained ($1.575m)
Zetterlund 50% retained ($725k)

Out:
Wood
Kylington
Malinski
Picks/prospects

Leaves the roster below. If you pay another 4/5th round pick to get double retention on Dumoulin that would also open up more forward options with higher caphits than Zetterlund (he might be too expensive as SJ probably don't want to trade him, I just used him as an example).

 

[a mangy Meowth]

he's frikkin' Galchenyuk at this point.

Has it gotten THAT bad?

 

[Bender]

Has it gotten THAT bad?

Right now he's playing wing on a line with Vatrano (career winger) and known defensive liability Ryan Strome as the center.

Zegras is talented but way too floaty for any NHL coach to put him at center. He better hope some team trades for him and pairs him with a talented center AND has a coach that will put up with his defensive shortcomings.

Can't wait to see it...not sure that situation exists.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Right now he's playing wing on a line with Vatrano (career winger) and known defensive liability Ryan Strome as the center.

Zegras is talented but way too floaty for any NHL coach to put him at center. He better hope some team trades for him and pairs him with a talented center AND has a coach that will put up with his defensive shortcomings.

Can't wait to see it...not sure that situation exists.

Zegras to Philly E5

Michkov - Zegras - Kuzmenko

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Right now he's playing wing on a line with Vatrano (career winger) and known defensive liability Ryan Strome as the center.

Zegras is talented but way too floaty for any NHL coach to put him at center. He better hope some team trades for him and pairs him with a talented center AND has a coach that will put up with his defensive shortcomings.

Can't wait to see it...not sure that situation exists.

How many police officers has Zegras threatened so far?

Feel like you might be dropping the Galchenyuk comparison without realizing the depths to which Galchenyuk has fallen these days lol. Might want to pick a different guy.

 

[Richard88]

I mentioned Zetterlund in a post above, as a middle 6 forward addition that would make sense from a cap perspective. I wanted him from NJ since the days of Donskoi/Compher/Kaut, but now that he's broken out he would probably not come cheap. Along with having a really low caphit ($1.45m) he's also an RFA, which CMac obviously values highly.

SJ are really thin at RHD so I wonder if they'd have interest in Malinski as part of a return built around Malinski + NYR 2nd for Zetterlund (plus another pick for 50% retention maybe).

Avs do have plenty of capspace this off-season so they can probably afford Zetterlund's next contract.

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Necas
Colton - Drury - Zetterlund
Wood - Kelly - O'Connor
Parssinen, Kiviranta

Maybe that's a bit overkill without sending another forward out. But perhaps Z could be a replacement for a Colton or Wood if they get moved to balance money in a bigger trade (eg. Jones).

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I still maintain the focus should be on the Defense more then anything. Mitts has looked a lot better the last couple of weeks and IMO his specific roster spot might truly be the only area you even really consider upgrading.


Lehky - Mack - Necas
Drouin - Mitts - Nuke
Colton - Drury - Wood
LOC - Kelly - Kivi

That's pretty solid IMO. With Landy as a wildcard that could potentially bump Colton or Wood down... And then Parsninen as a guy that could challenge that 3rd line as well.

But the defense is where we need a lot of help. We really need two guys. Middleton/Malinski should be the #7 and #8 Dmen once the playoffs start.

 

[BobRossColton]

Besides Dumoulin the only guy I'd take from Anaheim would be McTavish, and they'd probably like to hold on to him still..

Sillinger would also be an interesting target but I bet Columbus would like hold on to him so as not throw off their playoff push.

 

[shadow1]

I mentioned Zetterlund in a post above, as a middle 6 forward addition that would make sense from a cap perspective. I wanted him from NJ since the days of Donskoi/Compher/Kaut, but now that he's broken out he would probably not come cheap. Along with having a really low caphit ($1.45m) he's also an RFA, which CMac obviously values highly.

SJ are really thin at RHD so I wonder if they'd have interest in Malinski as part of a return built around Malinski + NYR 2nd for Zetterlund (plus another pick for 50% retention maybe).

Avs do have plenty of capspace this off-season so they can probably afford Zetterlund's next contract.

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Necas
Colton - Drury - Zetterlund
Wood - Kelly - O'Connor
Parssinen, Kiviranta

Maybe that's a bit overkill without sending another forward out. But perhaps Z could be a replacement for a Colton or Wood if they get moved to balance money in a bigger trade (eg. Jones).

I think Zetterlund is one of the more untouchable pieces for the Sharks. I like the guy you mentioned the other day - Oliver Bjrokstrand. Obligatory Columbus Blue Jackets connection, never misses games, always puts up 50 points with mediocre (~15min) ice time.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I still maintain the focus should be on the Defense more then anything. Mitts has looked a lot better the last couple of weeks and IMO his specific roster spot might truly be the only area you even really consider upgrading.


Lehky - Mack - Necas
Drouin - Mitts - Nuke
Colton - Drury - Wood
LOC - Kelly - Kivi

That's pretty solid IMO. With Landy as a wildcard that could potentially bump Colton or Wood down... And then Parsninen as a guy that could challenge that 3rd line as well.

But the defense is where we need a lot of help. We really need two guys. Middleton/Malinski should be the #7 and #8 Dmen once the playoffs start.

If we could afford it I'd almost be willing to take Jones at 9.5. I've been watching their games lately. He's been legit.

I don't think we could do 9.5, 8 maybe.

 

[EdAVSfan]

The Avs are already log-jammed at wing as it is. Sure, it’s unlikely they’re fully healthy, but the Avs have Drouin, Lehkonen, Nuke, Necas, Colton, LOC as top 9 wings.this doesn’t include Parsinnen or Landeskog if he comes back. I guess you could find perhaps a 3rd line wing improvement.
But the AVS need to use their assets and cap space on dmen. They’re shallow there and can’t absorb any injuries to their top 4. They most definitely need a very good 4/5 defender at minimum. Kylington returning will hopefully tell them if they need a better #6 as well.

I know a few people scoffed at Marchand on the main board, and the guy is definitely insufferable when he’s not on your team BUT, he adds a lot of what’s missing on this team. Agitates the other team, can still score, leadership, isn’t afraid to battle and go to the net for dirty goals, etc.
Like I said though, another forward imo is priority #2 or # 3 depending on who they get as an extra defenseman.

 

[hockeyfish]

The Avs are already log-jammed at wing as it is. Sure, it’s unlikely they’re fully healthy, but the Avs have Drouin, Lehkonen, Nuke, Necas, Colton, LOC as top 9 wings.this doesn’t include Parsinnen or Landeskog if he comes back. I guess you could find perhaps a 3rd line wing improvement.
But the AVS need to use their assets and cap space on dmen. They’re shallow there and can’t absorb any injuries to their top 4. They most definitely need a very good 4/5 defender at minimum. Kylington returning will hopefully tell them if they need a better #6 as well.

I know a few people scoffed at Marchand on the main board, and the guy is definitely insufferable when he’s not on your team BUT, he adds a lot of what’s missing on this team. Agitates the other team, can still score, leadership, isn’t afraid to battle and go to the net for dirty goals, etc.
Like I said though, another forward imo is priority #2 or # 3 depending on who they get as an extra defenseman.

If Marchand says “I want to chase another cup and play with Mack,” I don’t see how you say no to it. Yeah, most hate him, but he is one of the most entertaining players of our generation, and can still be effective. Just do it and work out the roster after that.

 

[CobraAcesS]

The Avs are already log-jammed at wing as it is. Sure, it’s unlikely they’re fully healthy, but the Avs have Drouin, Lehkonen, Nuke, Necas, Colton, LOC as top 9 wings.this doesn’t include Parsinnen or Landeskog if he comes back. I guess you could find perhaps a 3rd line wing improvement.
But the AVS need to use their assets and cap space on dmen. They’re shallow there and can’t absorb any injuries to their top 4. They most definitely need a very good 4/5 defender at minimum. Kylington returning will hopefully tell them if they need a better #6 as well.

I know a few people scoffed at Marchand on the main board, and the guy is definitely insufferable when he’s not on your team BUT, he adds a lot of what’s missing on this team. Agitates the other team, can still score, leadership, isn’t afraid to battle and go to the net for dirty goals, etc.
Like I said though, another forward imo is priority #2 or # 3 depending on who they get as an extra defenseman.

Right now I wish Colton could be swapped for someone better, but he's the most difficult to move because of that NTC.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The Avs are already log-jammed at wing as it is. Sure, it’s unlikely they’re fully healthy, but the Avs have Drouin, Lehkonen, Nuke, Necas, Colton, LOC as top 9 wings.this doesn’t include Parsinnen or Landeskog if he comes back. I guess you could find perhaps a 3rd line wing improvement.
But the AVS need to use their assets and cap space on dmen. They’re shallow there and can’t absorb any injuries to their top 4. They most definitely need a very good 4/5 defender at minimum. Kylington returning will hopefully tell them if they need a better #6 as well.

I know a few people scoffed at Marchand on the main board, and the guy is definitely insufferable when he’s not on your team BUT, he adds a lot of what’s missing on this team. Agitates the other team, can still score, leadership, isn’t afraid to battle and go to the net for dirty goals, etc.
Like I said though, another forward imo is priority #2 or # 3 depending on who they get as an extra defenseman.

Yeah pretty much.


Only way we trade for a winger IMO is if its a Wood+ or Colton+ sort of deal. And then I cant really imagine many teams being interested in Wood. Colton is the one guy I could see them moving but with his movement protection I doubt we see that this year as well.