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Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux
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Alright, get Miller, watch him and MacKinnon get too competitive against each other - to the point where it's hard to tell if they know they play on the same team. Line 1 vs. Line 2 to see who can dominate the most.
This is the song that doesn't end
Yes, it goes on and on, my friend
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because
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They could afford a Petey trade in the off-season, maybe even Casey helps with finishing the year strong(ish)
Well, at least they can't fight in practice if there is no practice.
Yeah not convincing.
This tells me that they may not want to trade him to us:
Yeah that's the biggest issue. Let's hope for a quick fall for them and their hopes.
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With Landy next season if nobody gets traded:
Drouin - MacKinnon - Necas
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Drury - LOC
Wood - Kelly - Colton
(Parssinen)
Makar - Toews
Girard - Manson
Middleton - Malinski
(cheap D)
Blackwood
Wedgewood
With new deals:
Drouin 4M
Parssinen 1M
Malinski or replacement 1M
Cap hit:
Forwards 59M
Defense 27.5M
Goalies 6.75M
Total: 93.25M out of 95.5M
Could re-sign depth like Kiviranta for 1M and some new D for 1M.
No casualties next season, but for the next one:
New deals:
Necas - Could be anything, let's say 9M for now. (+2.5M)
Drury - RFA, let's say 2M. (+0.25M)
Kelly or replacement 1M
Manson replacement 5M
Wedwegood or replacement 1.5M
Assuming we did spend to cap the previous season, this would add to a
Total: 98.25M / 104M
Meaning we will definitely have space for Necas. The hardest part of roster building is finding a Manson replacement. We can add almost 6M to my estimations for Necas and Manson replacement cap hits.
27-28 season:
New deals:
Mittelstadt or replacement - Hard to say, let's say 7M for a good one. (+1.25M)
Lehkonen - Hard to say, let's say 8M. (+3.5M)
Colton - Let him walk, replace by a 1M guy. (-3M)
Makar - What's the max? Uhh let's say 20M I have no idea. (+11M)
Girard or replacement - For a good third best D maybe 7M. (+2M)
Middleton or replacement - 1M
Now total kinda depends on how much we spent the previous year, but let's assume we had to spend to the cap:
118.75M / 113.5M
Leaving us 5.25M over the cap. If Necas and Manson cost as much as I guessed, then we would be just under the cap. Now, if Landeskog doesn't play, then we have 7M extra each year, and we probably wouldn't spend 7M on a 3rd line winger. If Landeskog does play, we can make space by not re-signing either Drouin or Lehkonen. Other than that we do need to pay up for top six forwards and top four defenders to be competitive. Starter goalie is locked in through all this.
Any of our own prospects that perform well could reduce our cap total by replacing someone more expensive from the roster, for example if Richie (or even Parssinen) takes over the 2C role.
Drouin - MacKinnon - Necas
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Drury - LOC
Wood - Kelly - Colton
(Parssinen)
Makar - Toews
Girard - Manson
Middleton - Malinski
(cheap D)
Blackwood
Wedgewood
With new deals:
Drouin 4M
Parssinen 1M
Malinski or replacement 1M
Cap hit:
Forwards 59M
Defense 27.5M
Goalies 6.75M
Total: 93.25M out of 95.5M
Could re-sign depth like Kiviranta for 1M and some new D for 1M.
No casualties next season, but for the next one:
New deals:
Necas - Could be anything, let's say 9M for now. (+2.5M)
Drury - RFA, let's say 2M. (+0.25M)
Kelly or replacement 1M
Manson replacement 5M
Wedwegood or replacement 1.5M
Assuming we did spend to cap the previous season, this would add to a
Total: 98.25M / 104M
Meaning we will definitely have space for Necas. The hardest part of roster building is finding a Manson replacement. We can add almost 6M to my estimations for Necas and Manson replacement cap hits.
27-28 season:
New deals:
Mittelstadt or replacement - Hard to say, let's say 7M for a good one. (+1.25M)
Lehkonen - Hard to say, let's say 8M. (+3.5M)
Colton - Let him walk, replace by a 1M guy. (-3M)
Makar - What's the max? Uhh let's say 20M I have no idea. (+11M)
Girard or replacement - For a good third best D maybe 7M. (+2M)
Middleton or replacement - 1M
Now total kinda depends on how much we spent the previous year, but let's assume we had to spend to the cap:
118.75M / 113.5M
Leaving us 5.25M over the cap. If Necas and Manson cost as much as I guessed, then we would be just under the cap. Now, if Landeskog doesn't play, then we have 7M extra each year, and we probably wouldn't spend 7M on a 3rd line winger. If Landeskog does play, we can make space by not re-signing either Drouin or Lehkonen. Other than that we do need to pay up for top six forwards and top four defenders to be competitive. Starter goalie is locked in through all this.
Any of our own prospects that perform well could reduce our cap total by replacing someone more expensive from the roster, for example if Richie (or even Parssinen) takes over the 2C role.
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LOFIN
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Dhaliwal on Halford and Brough 1 hour ago: "Two years ago Colorado was asking about Miller, the deal would've included Byram and Newhook to Vancouver. Don't know what happened in the end for that to not come through. I wouldn't be surprised if Miller would be willing to go to Colorado, even though so far he has signaled he wants East Coast."
Yeah sure. You can choose to believe Friedman, I choose to believe Kypreos. Friedman has got more things wrong in the last few years however.
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Kypreos' sources are always agents, btw.
Marner's agent. Tavares' agent. List goes on and on.
So, he's been speaking with Andy Scott, Mikko's agent.
Just keep that in mind.
Marner's agent. Tavares' agent. List goes on and on.
So, he's been speaking with Andy Scott, Mikko's agent.
Just keep that in mind.
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Send them Mitts, Colton and a 2nd then! That's what we got for them.
For real though, that f***ing Colton NMC pisses me off.
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Whoops. Lehtonen is a normal name here, Lehkonen less so (37k vs 0.7k)
I think it's literally just one guy in denial about what went down.
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I think the estimations are off. Parsinnen is going to cost more than 1M. And clearly we need to spend more money on the 3rd pairing. At the same time, the Avs would likely shed Colton’s 4M and replace with Ritchie and save 3+M. Shedding Wood would also save an additional 1.5M. That would give the Avs close to 5M to get a more supportive 3rd pairing.
LOFIN
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I mean there are always two sides to a story
who do you think is feeding info for Friedman, and what makes their POV more accurate?I find it funny how we've know for years how tight lipped the Avs FO is, and we don't even know if that "he wants Draisaitl money" is coming from them.
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Send them Mitts, Colton and a 2nd then! That's what we got for them.
For real though, that f***ing Colton NMC pisses me off.
For some weird reason, it's only this year, too.
Year 1 last year - Nothing
Year 2 this year - Full NTC
Year 3 + Year 4 - Modified NTC (unclear how many teams)
BobRossColton
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They were reportedly shopping him around last summer before July 1st. Sucks that they failed.
LOFIN
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The weird reason being that his first year he was still RFA, under 27 years old. They can't have trade protection.
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No, I mean it's weird that only year 2 is full NTC but years 3 and 4 move to a modified NTC.
I understand why year 1 doesn't have it.
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Interesting timing of this cap news. You have to think they have some idea.
1. Necas' contract might not look too different than Rants at the end of the day
2. Impacts TD negotiations happening right now - long term deals just skyrocketed in value
3. That Seth Jones full deal might not look so bad
1. Necas' contract might not look too different than Rants at the end of the day
2. Impacts TD negotiations happening right now - long term deals just skyrocketed in value
3. That Seth Jones full deal might not look so bad
LOFIN
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I mean it's not that unusual. Players usually want to have that maximum protection at first, and clubs might give it to them in exchange for AAV. There are ofcourse some teams that hand out NMCs and NTCs like candy, but the Avs are not one of those teams. MacKinnon is the only player with a full NMC throughout his contract. Not even Landeskog has a full NMC, starting next season he has a 12 team no-trade list.
On a sidenote, those Landeskog clauses are displayed interestingly in Puckpedia and CapWages. He has a NMC and a modified NTC starting next season. I guess that means the Avs can't waive him, but can still trade him to 20 other teams. I didn't even know you could do that, I thought you can just have a NMC that takes away all the trade options. Maybe it's a gentlemans agreement or something?
Another funny note, Puckpedia has an anchor as their NMC symbol. Yeah, some deals really are boat anchors...
Avs are still going to be in a crunch next season. Not as bad as we thought a few months ago, but still.
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