Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

I really hope the Jones rumors aren't true. I'm just not a fan at all. Wildly overrated player.

But they gotta do SOMETHING about this defense. It's nowhere near good enough.

Overrated sure. Overpaid too. But he's still an effective defender at both ends, reasonably young and productive. Behind Makar he'd be stellar.

The trouble with available players is they all have an issue. With Jones it's he's overpaid. Better than declining, personality issues or something else.

Sounds like he's a pipedream anyways, Blackhawks pushed back on the rumor. At least insinuating they wanted a real offer for him. Avs can't afford him at or near full price, he'd need to come with $2-$2.5mil off at least.
 
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Name I've only heard a bit but what about someone like Morgan Frost? Not sure what it'd take to get him or how he'd fit ultimately but seems to be a fairly good young forward with good skating. He's had a decent year. Not sure how the board feels though.

Earlier this week, I had a conversation with a non-Avalanche fan friend about Frost and also Tommy Novak with Nashville.

My $0.02 is/was this: Colorado used to hit on players like that all the time, and they just aren't anymore. Burakovsky, Grubauer, Nichushkin, Toews - heck, even Donskoi to a lesser extent - all redefined themselves in bigger roles. The mid-20s guys brought in since - Colton, Georgiev, Mittelstadt, Parssinen, Wood - have produced to the status quo, with only a few good stretches or maybe one good full season (Yr1 of George). What's left with is a roster full of guys who're miscast, playing a role one line too high for their ability.

If Colorado is going to rip off the band-aid and replace Mittelstadt, they need to go for the sure thing, IMO.
 
Name I've only heard a bit but what about someone like Morgan Frost? Not sure what it'd take to get him or how he'd fit ultimately but seems to be a fairly good young forward with good skating. He's had a decent year. Not sure how the board feels though.
His name has been mentioned for the last 2 seasons probably. I don't think anyone is super excited about him honestly.
 
Earlier this week, I had a conversation with a non-Avalanche fan friend about Frost and also Tommy Novak with Nashville.

My $0.02 is/was this: Colorado used to hit on players like that all the time, and they just aren't anymore. Burakovsky, Grubauer, Nichushkin, Toews - heck, even Donskoi to a lesser extent - all redefined themselves in bigger roles. The mid-20s guys brought in since - Colton, Georgiev, Mittelstadt, Parssinen, Wood - have produced to the status quo, with only a few good stretches or maybe one good full season (Yr1 of George). What's left with is a roster full of guys who're miscast, playing a role one line too high for their ability.

If Colorado is going to rip off the band-aid and replace Mittelstadt, they need to go for the sure thing, IMO.
I think the Avs have put themselves in a spot that they have to take chances rather than go for the sure thing. The sure things cost peak prices. And the Avs simply don’t have the assets to fix the 2C, fix the depth, add the defensemen, etc.

At best, they can go for the sure thing at 2C. But I’m not sure where that is. Who’s the sure thing 2C that’s available, that’s affordable, that’s the right age, that’s cost controlled, that doesn’t liquidate all our best assets.

The AVS are going to have to take chances in places. It’s their only chance to attempt to fill the depth spots without paying through the nose for them
 
lmao Grubauer

Had a contract in front of him to stay in a place where he was a Vezina finalist.

Chased the money, watched his old team win the Stanley Cup, and is now on waivers.

Saad was one of the best players in the series against Vegas. Grubauer (apart from game 1 and part of game 2) was one of the worst. Both are now on their way out of the NHL.
 
You see, you say we have solid depth with MacK/Pettersson, but lack of depth was cited as the main reason why so many people here could not wait to see Mikko go. Thats why i am confused.

It is where you allocate funds. Having high paid players that facilitate plays means they can do a lot of the heavy lifting. My issue with paying Rantanen what he was wanting was that he was progressively turning from a play driver to a complimentary piece (likely the best complimentary piece in the whole league, but still...). There's no guarantee that EP40 would be able to turn it around, but he's shown that he can be a upper echelon player carrying significantly lesser players (he had Kuzmenko looking like a potential star, now Kuzmenko looks like he should probably head back to Russia). So it's the gamble that you acquire this guy and he fills in spectacularly as a 2-way stud that can carry another line.
 
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Name I've only heard a bit but what about someone like Morgan Frost? Not sure what it'd take to get him or how he'd fit ultimately but seems to be a fairly good young forward with good skating. He's had a decent year. Not sure how the board feels though.
I've about had my fill of undersized centers with limited skating ability who aren't meeting expectations.
 
If we can't upgrade at 2C and Mitts is the "guy" moving forward, we really need to split up Necas-MacK and put Marty on the second line. He's driven his own line before in Carolina and could likely do the same thing here.

JD/Lehky - MacK - Nuke
Lehky/JD - Mitts - Marty

Of course, this would mean Bednar distributes the ice-time between these two lines a lot closer.

We all know that at the slightest hiccup he will revert to Necas up with MacK. That's a problem.
 
I really hope the Jones rumors aren't true. I'm just not a fan at all. Wildly overrated player.

But they gotta do SOMETHING about this defense. It's nowhere near good enough.

I've been watching him more lately, and hope they're true. At 7M he'd be absolutely worth it. He can legitimately allow Bednar to reduce Makar's minutes, and step up when he's injured in all situations.
 
If we can't upgrade at 2C and Mitts is the "guy" moving forward, we really need to split up Necas-MacK and put Marty on the second line. He's driven his own line before in Carolina and could likely do the same thing here.

JD/Lehky - MacK - Nuke
Lehky/JD - Mitts - Marty

Of course, this would mean Bednar distributes the ice-time between these two lines a lot closer.

We all know that at the slightest hiccup he will revert to Necas up with MacK. That's a problem.
Necas is going to be in the zone, have given the puck away, gotten the puck back and re-entered the zone by the time Mitts enters the zone for the first time.
 
Necas is going to be in the zone, have given the puck away, gotten the puck back and re-entered the zone by the time Mitts enters the zone for the first time.

Whatever, let him drag his ass and carry the invisible fridge on his back up ice.

Lehkonen is our best goal scorer right now, let him and Marty build some chemistry.

Nuke can be the shooter with MacK/JD and Lehky the shooter with Mitts/Marty.
 
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Whatever, let him drag his ass and carry the invisible fridge on his back up ice.

Lehkonen is our best goal scorer right now, let him and Marty build some chemistry.

Nuke can be the shooter with MacK/JD and Lehky the shooter with Mitts/Marty.
I was more commenting on how funny it'll be to watch the speed difference there. It could become a meme, like Jason Allison still working his way down the ice for his shootout attempt.
 
Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Mitts - Necas

I could certainly see that Top 6 working quite well if health wasnt in the equation. If you actually get Landy back at any point you then also get a 3rd line of

Landy - Drury - Colton?

And then the Kivi/Kelly/LOC 4th line.



Suffice to say Wood needs to be sent to the site of the moon landing.
 
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With seeing the chemistry with Mack and Necas I think Bednar will try it at some point but he’ll just go back to Necas-Mack like he always did Mikko-Mack

I kinda want to see Lehhky with Necas and Mack, but it would probably neuter the Mitts line. Drouin is fine, but he's not as fast or as fierce of a checker as Lehhky.

When Nuke is back it becomes much more realistic to try some different combinations.

Nuke up with them would theoretically be an unstoppable cycle we haven't seen since 9296.
 
Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Mitts - Necas

I could certainly see that Top 6 working quite well if health wasnt in the equation. If you actually get Landy back at any point you then also get a 3rd line of

Landy - Drury - Colton?

And then the Kivi/Kelly/LOC 4th line.



Suffice to say Wood needs to be sent to the site of the moon landing.

We really need to convince Colton to waive in a package with his buddy Wood.

$6.5m combined... think of the possibilities.
 
Drouin - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Mitts - Necas

I could certainly see that Top 6 working quite well if health wasnt in the equation. If you actually get Landy back at any point you then also get a 3rd line of

Landy - Drury - Colton?

And then the Kivi/Kelly/LOC 4th line.



Suffice to say Wood needs to be sent to the site of the moon landing.

That top six makes so much sense when Nuke is back.
 

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