SoundwaveIsCharisma
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Seravelli is still waiting for Kotkaniemi to land in Denver
Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux
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Seravelli is still waiting for Kotkaniemi to land in Denver
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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Imagine if Chicago had pulled the greatest troll move ever and stopped at the Avs trading Rants for their random prospect
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We learned later that he was part of the Canucks package.
Frank was the first to break the Rantanen trade, honestly he doesn't deserve the hate he gets on this board.
Bender
I'll eat pancakes on his grave!
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hockeyfish
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Beyond Jones and Andersson, who I don’t think is actually available, I’m not sure I see any other top 4 RD out there.
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He doesn't. Also I just posted a fresh The Athletic article showing that he was right and you were wrong on the Chicago timeline.
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Bender
I'll eat pancakes on his grave!
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Yeah ok whatever - I don't care how many 'fresh' articles this schmuck posts on the athletic - I'll never subscribe to that garbage.
He said he'd bet his house that Nazem Kadri would sign with the NYR the night before free agency. Good job, frank.
Also the whole 'being first' to report whatever - isn't the glorious, supreme journalism prize in the world many seem to think it is. First of all, it's by a few seconds and I think there are people out there who want to get it right AND verify their crap rather than be first with stuff that's wrong.
Emily Kaplan was first with the correct players being exchanged.
Besides, even adrian dater was FIRST to report the END OF THE LOCKOUT - OMG what a
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Not really, Necas was going to walk after that contract and they'll have a ton of cap space and assets left to make other moves if needed
hockeyfish
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And Necas gets the winning goal against them in the SCF.
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Well someone did say they offered Rantanen to go to Chicago or Carolina. Reasonable to assume. Chicago was evaluating a big offer for Rantanen too. And Cmac used then to handle the money instead since everyone was already talking and they wanted to get rid of Hall.
I like the 'Jones is still in play' alternate reality better though.
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Yes, he's not been great lately, but honestly - what depth player is consistently playing at the top of his game across 82 games? If he did, he would be a top line player, not a depth one. He was great early on, not so great now. He'll probably be pretty good again this season.
Colton's contract is not bad. Nor is Manson's, btw. They're mid-tier/2nd tier players, but good ones. They bring a physicality to their game that ups the $$$. Good players with some flaws. Precisely the "depth players" we'd be begging for if they weren't here. Precisely the "depth players" we currently want more of right now.
Colton is a ~20g/40pt guy (across a 82 game season), who plays a relatively simple (and physical) game. Those attributes/numbers get guys ~$4M per. That's the market. We've got two of them, they're pretty good, all things considered, and we'd be begging for them if they weren't here.
I can't fathom the people who gripe about Manson and Colton at $4M, claiming they're the problem. They're not.
The problem is 2C. Mittelstadt. Period. End of story. That's the problem.
And if they don't solve that problem, none of the rest of the story matters.
P.S. This is why I don't get the Jones discussion. The Avs have a formidable Top 4 defensively. The Crosby discussion I get. Though I think that's a pipe dream.
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hockeyfish
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He's legit, but he makes mistakes. I have no issue with him. I just wanted to remember and help others remember KK did not get traded to us really.
forsbergavs32
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Never been so happy for a media guy to be wrong. Drury seems like just what the doctor ordered for the bottom 6.
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It would still stink for them. They gotta re-sign Mikko. If they win the cup but can’t re-sign him, they probably won’t care as much, but if no cup and Mikko walks, ouch… that’s just gonna hurt
Bill Peckerskull
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Yeah, it doesn’t pass the smell test. Like the Hawks are gonna tell Frank who they were there to see, so they just fed him some shit sandwich and he ate it and then regurgitated it.
hockeyfish
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Yeah, Drury is a better player at a fraction of the cost. So so much better.
forsbergavs32
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Sorry, that was me, I had Burger King for lunch.
Avsfan1921
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I’m sure Jones was just sick the very day that his team was involved in a major three team deal. Truly, very likely.
hockeyfish
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Since the new year, Mitts has been a positive Corsi player with much better xGF%. Still work to do, but he has been better. I think it was injury related and it’s starting to clear up.
The futures assets they would get for trading Necas would be similar to what they'd pay to add a legit goal scorer for this run.
They needed that shot threat badly. Which we know is why Mikko is valued so much higher than Necas.
Their core is also aging just like ours. Wasted years are hard to swallow.
Totally understand their side of the trade.
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While that was once a culinary staple of my drunken youth, I haven't touched that shit in years. I think I'd be sitting for a few days, if I ate that stuff now.
