Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[Miri]

This deadline f***ing sucks.

No Crosby. No Jones. No Kadri/Andersson. Shitty UFA class. Avs healthy'ish for once a month away from the playoffs with the goaltending addressed. WTF.

Dont worry, while it looks bleak now, it will all come together in a year when we get McJesus as our 2C

 

[Foppa2118]

If the Blues are willing to trade Parayko to Colorado, and he is willing to waive his NTC for Denver, then that just needs to get done.

Toews - Makar
Girard - Parayko
Lindgren - Manson
Kylington - Malinski

That's a perfectly balanced group for the playoffs, with tonnes of size in the bottom 4.

Then in the offseason you trade Manson ($4.5m X1 year) to recoup some trade capital lost in the Parayko trade.

Kinda hard to see the Avs getting that done without a 2025 1st though. And regardless of that it would be very unlike CMac to trade two 1sts and a prime prospect to begin with, especially a player on the wrong side of 30 (he's 31).

I think they're in a different position now post Cup. I don't think they're as concerned about signing 30 year olds, or contracts aging well long term, as long as they help the team win short or medium term.

CMac was willing to sign Kadri at 32. Signed Manson at 30. Also apparently willing to trade for Jones and Miller at 30 and 31.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I think they're in a different position now post Cup. I don't think they're as concerned about signing 30 year olds, or contracts aging well long term, as long as they help the team win short or medium term.

CMac was willing to sign Kadri at 32. Signed Manson at 30. Also apparently willing to trade for Jones and Miller at 30 and 31.

6.5M for a #3 that perfectly replaces everything Manson brings would be like paying Manson 4.5M with the cap rising too.

If they're serious, and that player is available, you push the chips into the middle of the table.

Pipe dream, and we're getting some rando for the middle six, but I won't stop hoping until it doesn't happen.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Nate’s had enough of Sid’s shit.
“If you won’t come to Denver, I’m leaving the Lake. Enjoy training with Zach Sil and Liam Big Tuna O’Brien all summer.”

 

[Tommy Shelby]

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Nate’s had enough of Sid’s shit.
“If you won’t come to Denver, I’m leaving the Lake. Enjoy training with Zach Sil and Liam Big Tuna O’Brien all summer.”

He sold it so that he could move in with Sid and use subconscious sleep persuasion on him

 

[flyfysher]

If they're planning on committing to a rebuild, where they won't make the playoffs the next five years, and Parayko is willing to be traded, what's the difference?

How soon after the Avs’ disastrous 48 point season did they make the POs? IIRC, the answer was pretty quickly.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

As for Parayko, Army is way too smart of a GM to give a shit about trading with the Avs. He knows where they are and where we are. It’ll obviously take an overpayment, but if Army can pluck Ritchie and Nabokov away from Colorado for an aging Parayko I bet he does it. The Blues are playing good hockey and might fight to get in but they aren’t winning the cup and he knows that. He’s making that trade for 3 years down the road and beyond and by that point he’s not as concerned about Parayko burying him and it likely adds to closing the Avs window a little earlier while getting 2 of the Avs best tradeable assets.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Never been particularly impressed with Parayko. His puck skills leave a lot to be desired and minimal physicality for a big guy. Not sure what better options are left though.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Never been particularly impressed with Parayko. His puck skills leave a lot to be desired and minimal physicality for a big guy. Not sure what better options are left though.

For right shot D-Man that might be available...
Parayko
Ristolainen
Anderson
Carlo
Dobson
Larsson
Jensen
Murphy

 

[CobraAcesS]

For right shot D-Man that might be available...
Parayko
Ristolainen
Anderson
Carlo
Dobson
Larsson
Jensen
Murphy

I gave you a like, but.. fixed






Just no, you want a top 4 D salary scratched and shoved into a locker somewhere permanently? Aquire that guy..

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

For right shot D-Man that might be available...
Parayko
Ristolainen
Anderson
Carlo
Dobson
Larsson
Jensen
Murphy

From this Andersson will prolly be too expensive. But he'd be solid next to G. And Dobson has to be too expensive, wasted on the 2nd pairing too. Carlo leaves much to be desired, Larsson is cooked, Risto is still a massive gamble, Jensen I wouldn't take for our 2nd pairing personally and Murphy is slow as molasses.

So not many pickings there. Avs should've pressed harder for Jones. Definitely avoid Karlsson too, that guy will stifle Makar.

 

[CobraAcesS]

From this Andersson will prolly be too expensive. But he'd be solid next to G. And Dobson has to be too expensive, wasted on the 2nd pairing too. Carlo leaves much to be desired, Larsson is cooked, Risto is still a massive gamble, Jensen I wouldn't take for our 2nd pairing personally and Murphy is slow as molasses.

So not many pickings there. Avs should've pressed harder for Jones. Definitely avoid Karlsson too, that guy will stifle Makar.

Just goes to show you how actually valuable Manson is right now.

We've scrapped the barrel for every possible 2C or 4RD, and can barely find legit upgrades even when looking at unrealistic targets.

Yes Parayko would be worth paying up for.

 

[lionsDen]

Larkin has literally said over and over that he doesn’t want to leave Detroit.

That’s a complete fantasy.

In the same vain that’s you and Crosby.

 

[CobraAcesS]

In the same vain that’s you and Crosby.

Or like everyone other than Crosby himself apparently.

Fkn Pittsburgh fans are writing poems to Fridge about Crosby moving to the Avs.

 

[lionsDen]

Or like everyone other than Crosby himself apparently.

Fkn Pittsburgh fans are writing poems to Fridge about Crosby moving to the Avs.

Doesn’t change the fact of the argument about public statements and fantasies

 

[lionsDen]

If Florida can't afford or don't want to re-sign Bennett at the number he wants this off-season as an UFA perhaps they'd be interested in a Mittelstadt/Bennett swap.

They get a middle 6 C with term for a pending UFA. And the Avs extend Bennett right after acquiring him, just as they did with Blackwood.

Drouin - MacKinnon - Necas
Lehkonen - Bennett - Nichushkin

That 2nd line

Their saying Bennett is gonna roughly cost you 8per

 

[CobraAcesS]

Their saying Bennett is gonna roughly cost you 8per

Yeah, no, I'd rather keep Mitts and make him stay in Denver on the treadmill all off season.

 

[lionsDen]

Yeah, no, I'd rather keep Mitts and make him stay in Denver on the treadmill all off season.

Yeah, I was interested earlier dug into the weeds and read that a bunch, and did the Homer Simpson of melting back into the bushes

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

I don’t think a big ticket defenceman is what this team is going after. I know people are going to act like the Lindgren acquisition is a nothing, but that’s obviously not how the Avs see it.

If they go after someone like Parayko with term it has to be dollars going out too, since there won’t be rentention on the contract. If you go after a defenceman you have to move money out from the forward group without a replacement.

IMO someone with a year, or two left is more likely, where they can get the team to retain to make it work. Or, Mittelstadt is moved out with assets for an upgrade.

Nelson, or Marchand are the guys I’d be looking at.

Kadri, as suggested earlier is interesting too, in a Mitts upgrade situation. A lot of ‘old guy’ options, but I’m ok with it. Worry about the future later.

 

[Frenchy]

Who?

The only thing I can think of is Mittelstadt for Kadri.

There’s nothing else left.

I would be VERY ok with this

 

[lionsDen]

I’d love to see some of the bigger names out there, but Colorado never ends up with them, thankfully so

Tarasenko
Kane
Giroux
Henrique

It’s always been those crafty trades Manson and lehiky

 

[Balthazar]

Who would have thought that the Rags would be sellers at this year's deadline. Disaster of a season for them.

 

[lionsDen]

I don’t think a big ticket defenceman is what this team is going after. I know people are going to act like the Lindgren acquisition is a nothing, but that’s obviously not how the Avs see it.

If they go after someone like Parayko with term it has to be dollars going out too, since there won’t be rentention on the contract. If you go after a defenceman you have to move money out from the forward group without a replacement.

IMO someone with a year, or two left is more likely, where they can get the team to retain to make it work. Or, Mittelstadt is moved out with assets for an upgrade.

Nelson, or Marchand are the guys I’d be looking at.

Kadri, as suggested earlier is interesting too, in a Mitts upgrade situation. A lot of ‘old guy’ options, but I’m ok with it. Worry about the future later.

Slot in vesey and move wood is the ideal in that scenario. Although I really think we need a upgrade on kirviranta

 

[flyfysher]

I don’t think a big ticket defenceman is what this team is going after. I know people are going to act like the Lindgren acquisition is a nothing, but that’s obviously not how the Avs see it.

If they go after someone like Parayko with term it has to be dollars going out too, since there won’t be rentention on the contract. If you go after a defenceman you have to move money out from the forward group without a replacement.

IMO someone with a year, or two left is more likely, where they can get the team to retain to make it work. Or, Mittelstadt is moved out with assets for an upgrade.

Nelson, or Marchand are the guys I’d be looking at.

Kadri, as suggested earlier is interesting too, in a Mitts upgrade situation. A lot of ‘old guy’ options, but I’m ok with it. Worry about the future later.

This season reminds me of the year when the Avs lost to the VGK. The TDL sucked that year. Who’d we pick up? Wasn’t it Soderberg and Nemeth? I understand the contention window is not going to remain open forever but I hate the idea of a panic buy or being stuck with a 30+ year old player’s multi-year contract.