Line Combos: 2024-2025 Powerplay Discussion

[rve24]

Should be a mainstay for the first shooter of a shootout, right between the circle, head high, give em something to think about.

Bobby Hull would lol

Mailloux has a great shot n will help PP2 once he earns a FT spot. Laine should help, Hutsons development will help. It's improved this year. Trending the right way with more on the horizon.

 

[CHwest]

Bobby Hull would lol

Mailloux has a great shot n will help PP2 once he earns a FT spot. Laine should help, Hutsons development will help. It's improved this year. Trending the right way with more on the horizon.

 

[417]

Show me the numbers. PK and Markov were dynamite

They only had 1 year where they played together and had a top 5 PP (5th highest in 2012-13) and it was the short 48 game season.

Outside of that short year, between, 2010 and 2016, the years Markov and Subban played together, they never had a PP rank higher than 19th.

In 2010-11 the Habs did finish 7th in the NHL on the PP but Markov only played 7 games.

On the PP…Markov + Souray >>> Markov + Subban.

 

[Habssince89]

They only had 1 year where they played together and had a top 5 PP (5th highest in 2012-13) and it was the short 48 game season.

Outside of that short year, between, 2010 and 2016, the years Markov and Subban played together, they never had a PP rank higher than 19th.

In 2010-11 the Habs did finish 7th in the NHL on the PP but Markov only played 7 games.

On the PP…Markov + Souray >>> Markov + Subban.

I honestly find that hard to believe because you're not accounting for the other elements to the souray era powerplay. Markov/Subban I remember being a force but having zero help. It was just them walking the blueline. Either way Markov was an elite player.

 

[417]

I honestly find that hard to believe because you're not accounting for the other elements to the souray era powerplay. Markov/Subban I remember being a force but having zero help. It was just them walking the blueline. Either way Markov was an elite player.

Not sure what you find hard to believe, I'm providing you with facts, feel free to fact check if you're still unsure.

You said they were dynamic together on the PP, they were not. That's not me making it up, they just weren't that good together on PP, certainly not as good as Markov/Souray were (albeit for a shorter sample). The Habs PP was 10th, 5th and 1st in 3 consecutive years with both Markov/Souray on the point (Kovalev also a factor obviously).

I remember Markov and Subban being much better at even strength and that's probably where you might be mixing things up.

I do agree though, Markov was an elite player…my favourite player on the Habs during those years and probably in my top 5 favorite Habs players all time.

 

[Adriatic]

Markov/Souray, Markov/Streit, Markov/Bergeron, and Markov/Wyz were all great power plays. Unfortunately we don't have anybody that shoot the puck like those duos had. Souray, Streit, Bergeron and Wyz all had absolute canons. Then you add Kovalev on the half boards and those pp's were lethal.

 

[Habssince89]

PP is sitting at 21.5%, 11th in the NHL.

When Laine returns, if he goes to the Huston unit we might see some interesting combos:

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Dach-Matheson

Armia-Newhook-Gallagher
Laine-Hutson

Armia is too good at possession to remove him I think. And Gallagher has been too good to do so, so Heineman is the odd man out. Just guessing at what MSL would do. For me, I would do this:

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Laine-Hutson

Gallagher-Dach-Newhook
Matheson-Heineman

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I feel like putting Hutson on pp1 would solve a lot of issues.

Two big problems this season have been the inconsistency of our top forwards and the lack of production from pp1.

PP1 has been struggling for a while, and Hutson is our best offensive weapon, so he could help out that unit a lot with his creativity and playmaking ability.

If he helps out pp1 score more goals, then that means Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, and Dach will be producing more. Producing pts makes players feel good.

If the pp make those players feel good, they'll start playing better at EV and be more consistent.

 

[sampollock]

need a PP coach

 

[Rapala]

I feel like putting Hutson on pp1 would solve a lot of issues.

Two big problems this season have been the inconsistency of our top forwards and the lack of production from pp1.

PP1 has been struggling for a while, and Hutson is our best offensive weapon, so he could help out that unit a lot with his creativity and playmaking ability.

If he helps out pp1 score more goals, then that means Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, and Dach will be producing more. Producing pts makes players feel good.

If the pp make those players feel good, they'll start playing better at EV and be more consistent.

Keep playing Suzuki as a bumper and it will never improve.
Newhook in at bumper Dach out and Suzuki playing his strong side.
I'm not even going to discuss the Hutson situation it seems to me the more noise being made about it the more the coach will dig his heels in.
He's really coming across as a stubborn SOB this season.

 

[Team_Spirit]

9th PP?!? How