NHL 2024- 2025 Out of Town II: JT Miller to Rangers

[mar2kbos]

I am betting PIT isn’t done moving Henien to another team. They had him and decided to not sign him again did they not? So it would be weird if they truly wanted him in a deal.

 

[smithformeragent]

I am betting PIT isn’t done moving Henien to another team. They had him and decided to not sign him again did they not? So it would be weird if they truly wanted him in a deal.

Throw in to make the cap hits work.

Definitely a candidate to be flipped at the deadline.

 

[Over the volcano]

Late to the party but it sure looks like Philly is paying the Tortorella tax dealing Frost and Farabee.

 

[TCB]

Am I reading this wrong... do the Canucks now have three guys named Pettersson on their team?

Including two Elias Petterssons?

Even when the Bruins cornered the market on Sweeneys, they all had different first names.

 

[TCB]

Sweeney is like the wife in a couple that’s married for a couple decades. Only pulls out the lingerie on Christmas and your birthday while the wife down the street will do it on a regular Wednesday night

Come on Don wake up.

sounds like its time for a divorce and for the Jacobs to check their Banking accounts.

 

[Gee Wally]

MSN

It’s safe to say that Jimmy Vesey is not happy about his recent lack of playing time with the New York Rangers. And their latest lineup decision just may have sent the veteran forward over the top with his frustration.

Vesey unloaded in a conversation with Larry Brooks of the New York Post after practice Thursday. At that practice, Arthur Kaliyev was off the third line and skating as an extra forward. What likely set Vesey off is that Jonny Brodzinski — not Vesey — took Kaliyev’s spot next to Filip Chytil and Chris Kreider, and will likely play against the Boston Bruins on Saturday.

“I love being a Ranger, and I think everyone knows that. The six years I’ve been here have been the best and most fun I’ve had as a player,” Vesey told Brooks. “But this stretch where I haven’t dressed for the last [nine] games and have no indication that this is going to change, it’s been extremely difficult for me.”

Vesey was just warming up.

“It seems that I’ve fallen out of favor and have just been cast aside over an extended period of time. It feels like I have no role or purpose on this team.

“I’m kind of dying by being here.”

The 31-year-old forward has played 26 games this season, in part due to injury. But lately, he’s been healthy and sitting in the press box. Coach Peter Laviolette played Kaliyev 10 games, mainly on the third line, and Matt Rempe has now taken a regular role on the fourth line, also playing 10 consecutive games. Plus, Adam Edstrom and Sam Carrick played every game on the fourth line this season.

A skilled penalty killer, Vesey lost his spot on the PK to Edstrom and Will Cuylle, a pair of younger players.

Laviolette said after practice Friday that he hasn’t given up on Vesey.

“Jimmy’s an important piece to this team,” he said. “He’s proven that. Right now we’ve gone with a lineup, and like all the players that aren’t in there, we just ask them to keep working hard. We’re more than confident in our team and their abilities to come in and make a difference.”


Still, it feels more likely than not that Vesey’s second tenure on Broadway is coming to an end soon. He is a slower, more plodding player, and Laviolette favors better skaters. Edstrom and Brodzinski certainly fit into that category.

“I love this place,” Vesey said. “But i know I’m unhappy and don’t see this changing. I know I have value to teams in this league. I know I could help teams.”

Vesey is right about two things there. His situation in New York is not likely changing, as explained above. And, yes, there are likely contenders who’d like to add him in their bottom six.

 

[Dr Hook]

MSN

It’s safe to say that Jimmy Vesey is not happy about his recent lack of playing time with the New York Rangers. And their latest lineup decision just may have sent the veteran forward over the top with his frustration.

Vesey unloaded in a conversation with Larry Brooks of the New York Post after practice Thursday. At that practice, Arthur Kaliyev was off the third line and skating as an extra forward. What likely set Vesey off is that Jonny Brodzinski — not Vesey — took Kaliyev’s spot next to Filip Chytil and Chris Kreider, and will likely play against the Boston Bruins on Saturday.

“I love being a Ranger, and I think everyone knows that. The six years I’ve been here have been the best and most fun I’ve had as a player,” Vesey told Brooks. “But this stretch where I haven’t dressed for the last [nine] games and have no indication that this is going to change, it’s been extremely difficult for me.”

Vesey was just warming up.

“It seems that I’ve fallen out of favor and have just been cast aside over an extended period of time. It feels like I have no role or purpose on this team.

“I’m kind of dying by being here.”

The 31-year-old forward has played 26 games this season, in part due to injury. But lately, he’s been healthy and sitting in the press box. Coach Peter Laviolette played Kaliyev 10 games, mainly on the third line, and Matt Rempe has now taken a regular role on the fourth line, also playing 10 consecutive games. Plus, Adam Edstrom and Sam Carrick played every game on the fourth line this season.

A skilled penalty killer, Vesey lost his spot on the PK to Edstrom and Will Cuylle, a pair of younger players.

Laviolette said after practice Friday that he hasn’t given up on Vesey.

“Jimmy’s an important piece to this team,” he said. “He’s proven that. Right now we’ve gone with a lineup, and like all the players that aren’t in there, we just ask them to keep working hard. We’re more than confident in our team and their abilities to come in and make a difference.”


Still, it feels more likely than not that Vesey’s second tenure on Broadway is coming to an end soon. He is a slower, more plodding player, and Laviolette favors better skaters. Edstrom and Brodzinski certainly fit into that category.

“I love this place,” Vesey said. “But i know I’m unhappy and don’t see this changing. I know I have value to teams in this league. I know I could help teams.”

Vesey is right about two things there. His situation in New York is not likely changing, as explained above. And, yes, there are likely contenders who’d like to add him in their bottom six.

Can I just pre-emptively say "No, Donnie, just no!"?

 

[GordonHowe]

Rangers vs. Bruins: 3 things to watch for in 1st game after massive J.T. Miller trade - Forever Blueshirts

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[PatriceBergeronFan]

MSN

It’s safe to say that Jimmy Vesey is not happy about his recent lack of playing time with the New York Rangers. And their latest lineup decision just may have sent the veteran forward over the top with his frustration.

Vesey unloaded in a conversation with Larry Brooks of the New York Post after practice Thursday. At that practice, Arthur Kaliyev was off the third line and skating as an extra forward. What likely set Vesey off is that Jonny Brodzinski — not Vesey — took Kaliyev’s spot next to Filip Chytil and Chris Kreider, and will likely play against the Boston Bruins on Saturday.

“I love being a Ranger, and I think everyone knows that. The six years I’ve been here have been the best and most fun I’ve had as a player,” Vesey told Brooks. “But this stretch where I haven’t dressed for the last [nine] games and have no indication that this is going to change, it’s been extremely difficult for me.”

Vesey was just warming up.

“It seems that I’ve fallen out of favor and have just been cast aside over an extended period of time. It feels like I have no role or purpose on this team.

“I’m kind of dying by being here.”

The 31-year-old forward has played 26 games this season, in part due to injury. But lately, he’s been healthy and sitting in the press box. Coach Peter Laviolette played Kaliyev 10 games, mainly on the third line, and Matt Rempe has now taken a regular role on the fourth line, also playing 10 consecutive games. Plus, Adam Edstrom and Sam Carrick played every game on the fourth line this season.

A skilled penalty killer, Vesey lost his spot on the PK to Edstrom and Will Cuylle, a pair of younger players.

Laviolette said after practice Friday that he hasn’t given up on Vesey.

“Jimmy’s an important piece to this team,” he said. “He’s proven that. Right now we’ve gone with a lineup, and like all the players that aren’t in there, we just ask them to keep working hard. We’re more than confident in our team and their abilities to come in and make a difference.”


Still, it feels more likely than not that Vesey’s second tenure on Broadway is coming to an end soon. He is a slower, more plodding player, and Laviolette favors better skaters. Edstrom and Brodzinski certainly fit into that category.

“I love this place,” Vesey said. “But i know I’m unhappy and don’t see this changing. I know I have value to teams in this league. I know I could help teams.”

Vesey is right about two things there. His situation in New York is not likely changing, as explained above. And, yes, there are likely contenders who’d like to add him in their bottom six.

Vesey is worth nothing to the Bruins. Pass!

 

[TCB]

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If I can add a 4th

Bruins lose and the "Fire Sweeney" Chants rein down

 

[HustleB]

Looking at that price, the only place Miller was waiving for was New York IMO.

I thought NYR gave up a haul. You think that JT Miller, limited the VAN return apparently. Chytil is a half ppg established NHL player who seems to have room to grow scoring wise in the NHL. Mancini seems like a big young talented d plus a first.

How does that compare to Poitras, Lohrei and a 1st from the B's in your opinion. Obviously the other guys coming from VAN also Brannstrom and Dorrington change the calculation, but if we went for the same package, what would the B's have needed to even match this offer.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I thought NYR gave up a haul. You think that JT Miller, limited the VAN return apparently. Chytil is a half ppg established NHL player who seems to have room to grow scoring wise in the NHL. Mancini seems like a big young talented d plus a first.

How does that compare to Poitras, Lohrei and a 1st from the B's in your opinion. Obviously the other guys coming from VAN also Brannstrom and Dorrington change the calculation, but if we went for the same package, what would the B's have needed to even match this offer.

The Ranger deal was better than what the Bruins could offer. Poitras and Lohrei are not close, our first has tremendous value though.

Both Bruin rookies are grossly overrated in Boston.

 

[BruinDust]

I thought NYR gave up a haul. You think that JT Miller, limited the VAN return apparently. Chytil is a half ppg established NHL player who seems to have room to grow scoring wise in the NHL. Mancini seems like a big young talented d plus a first.

How does that compare to Poitras, Lohrei and a 1st from the B's in your opinion. Obviously the other guys coming from VAN also Brannstrom and Dorrington change the calculation, but if we went for the same package, what would the B's have needed to even match this offer.

Honestly I thought the return was sort of light. I'm not a Chytil fan, not so much his play or his production which is decent but very injury prone. I just don't think you can count on this player for 80+ games per season, not much help in the pressbox injured.

Can't say I've ever seen Mancini play but seems like the consensus is he's a physical 3rd pair D-man moving forward. The 1st is the biggest piece IMO but also protected this year.

Compared to Poitras, Lohrei and a B's 1st that would of been a massive overpayment for me and a significantly bigger package than what the Rangers gave up. Call the 1st a wash, Bruins giving up their best young C (arguably best young forward) AND their best young D man and one of the better young offensive D-men in the league. That's rich in comparison, at least in my opinion.

It's hard to put together a comparable package from Boston. The closest forward to Chytil is probably Frederic but Chytil is under contract 2 more years past this one, Frederic is a UFA. Finding a D that you could sub-in for Mancini would be tough. Between Lohrei and the next best D-prospect, there is a huge gap and I don't see any Bruins prospect D in between that gap comparable to Mancini. Who is the 2nd best D-prospect in the Bruins system? Groenwald? Edward? Brunet? Johansson? I have no idea. None of them currently have Mancini's value IMO.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I think the biggest jackass is sacco and the one who hired him. I'm very upset with Donny this year and I'm his biggest fan. The biggest reason why were struggling is we never addressed the coaching after cassidy was let go. Monty always sucked and now we replaced with him the imbecile sacco.

Sorry for being pissy last night. I’m not a Sacco fan. I’m a spoiled Bruins fan who’s team has been in the mix of things for a long time. I want that to continue. Don’t think that will happen.

 

[22Brad Park]

Tocchet won't be staying much longer.

Bruins should hire him.The man has an inner fire about him.Probably hire Boudreau.

Honestly I thought the return was sort of light. I'm not a Chytil fan, not so much his play or his production which is decent but very injury prone. I just don't think you can count on this player for 80+ games per season, not much help in the pressbox injured.

Can't say I've ever seen Mancini play but seems like the consensus is he's a physical 3rd pair D-man moving forward. The 1st is the biggest piece IMO but also protected this year.

Compared to Poitras, Lohrei and a B's 1st that would of been a massive overpayment for me and a significantly bigger package than what the Rangers gave up. Call the 1st a wash, Bruins giving up their best young C (arguably best young forward) AND their best young D man and one of the better young offensive D-men in the league. That's rich in comparison, at least in my opinion.

It's hard to put together a comparable package from Boston. The closest forward to Chytil is probably Frederic but Chytil is under contract 2 more years past this one, Frederic is a UFA. Finding a D that you could sub-in for Mancini would be tough. Between Lohrei and the next best D-prospect, there is a huge gap and I don't see any Bruins prospect D in between that gap comparable to Mancini. Who is the 2nd best D-prospect in the Bruins system? Groenwald? Edward? Brunet? Johansson? I have no idea. None of them currently have Mancini's value IMO.

That 1st will help make trade a bit better in 26 is a good bet

 

[TCB]

Meanwhile Sweeney remains asleep at the Wheel

 

[Dr Hook]

Meanwhile Sweeney remains asleep at the Wheel

Why asleep? Neither of those guys are players the Bruins need right now. Those are players teams like Dallas that are shoring up for a hopefully deep playoff run acquire. Both 30+ vets that would not move dial for the Bruins' current situation. I am glad he isn't getting guys like that (to this point).

 

[TCB]

Why asleep? Neither of those guys are players the Bruins need right now. Those are players teams like Dallas that are shoring up for a hopefully deep playoff run acquire. Both 30+ vets that would not move dial for the Bruins' current situation. I am glad he isn't getting guys like that (to this point).

Because I want him to get assets and move guys out.

 

[Dr Hook]

Because I want him to get assets and move guys out.

Me too, but if he is really going to the sell route, there is no great rush- I don't want him getting less than he could for some players.

 

[TCB]

Me too, but if he is really going to the sell route, there is no great rush- I don't want him getting less than he could for some players.

If much rather see him get a prospect or a young NHL player with potential or 2026 firsts. There a lot of buyers out there but if he’s talking to Anahiem , what’s his plan ?

Hopefully a McTavish Zegras type