Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Ottawa Senators In the system

[Ouroboros]

You are correct that is a high number but i believe he received 15 of those PM's in his last game.

When it comes to PIMS we don't ask how, we ask how many.

 

[Brodeur]

In case anybody needs their Carter Yakemchuk daily fix, Calgary's game tonight will aired on YouTube for free

 

[Bileur]

What pisses me off about the Eliasson pick is the same thing that pissed me off about the Boucher pick.

There were alternatives available that brought size, toughness and physicality without being completely braindead and talentless.

Sens could have taken Sillinger or Coronato in 2021 instead of Boucher. Both were gritty forwards with more PIMs than games played, and they had top 6 talent and excellent USHL production, unlike Boucher.

They could have taken Brunicke or Pulkkinen in 2024 instead of Eliasson. Both are big guys with strong physical games and excellent tools, but unlike Eliasson they actually have some talent and offensive upside to go along with it.

In both cases the Sens scouting staff just HAD to have the most physical/tough player, even if it meant passing up a physical/tough player with much more skill, IQ and upside.

I also wanted Sillinger. I was convinced he’d be the pick with the whole son of a former Senator angle. Boucher I liked in the second but he was clearly overdrafted.

I still think you’re being a little harsh on Eliasson. He’s ridiculously young, and while the puck skills and hockey IQ need lots of work, the skating is pretty impressive for 6’7 220, particularly when you consider most giants are still very awkward at that age.

I’m curious about what he can be molded into. It’s a long term project, but with the new NCAA rules he might even have more runway to develop if he isn’t quite ready for the AHL in two years.

HB and Pulkkinen are nice but neither have the potential to bring the specific element Eliasson could. Also worth noting Pulkkinen is almost two years older than him.

That is true. I don't buy the argument that he would have been available in the mid-rounds.

Players like him to get overdrafted because of their uniqueness relative to the rest of the draft class.

You can justify probably wasting a 2nd/3rd rounder on a guy like Eliasson if you're a team like say Utah or Anaheim that has a top prospect pool overflowing with talent that is missing some toughness, but it was absolutely the wrong pick for a team like the Sens that has little to no talent in the pipeline after trading away a boatload of picks in recent years and largely blowing the ones they did use.

But our scouts can't help themselves. They make the Burke era Leafs' scouting staff look normal by comparison. Just an insane obsession with toughness and physicality over all else.

A second is a huge price but if he hits, this kind of player can be a tone setter and help establish the team style and culture Staios wants. If he identified huge, physical D as a key to success, I don’t think the pick is crazy.

Let this kid simmer on the back burner for a few years and see what we have.

 

[mianjo]

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[Bjornar Moxnes]

What pisses me off about the Eliasson pick is the same thing that pissed me off about the Boucher pick.

There were alternatives available that brought size, toughness and physicality without being completely braindead and talentless.

Sens could have taken Sillinger or Coronato in 2021 instead of Boucher. Both were gritty forwards with more PIMs than games played, and they had top 6 talent and excellent USHL production, unlike Boucher.

They could have taken Brunicke or Pulkkinen in 2024 instead of Eliasson. Both are big guys with strong physical games and excellent tools, but unlike Eliasson they actually have some talent and offensive upside to go along with it.

In both cases the Sens scouting staff just HAD to have the most physical/tough player, even if it meant passing up a physical/tough player with much more skill, IQ and upside.

Even Adam Kleber would have been better, although Klebers having a whatever D+1.