BondraTime
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Real rough looking at the prospects stay sheets. Very, very little offense coming up.
Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Ottawa Senators In the system
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Yak just got up slow after a weird hit. Hopefully he’s okay.
Edit: he’s back out, false alarm!
Edit: he’s back out, false alarm!
Nordberg 1g and
| 01:55 | SF | Filip Nordberg, Major-Fighting, 5 min |
| 01:55 | SF | Filip Nordberg, 10-Minute Misconduct, 10 min |
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We really should have drafted a forward with our 2nd, Eliasson is beyond redundant with our existing prospect pool.
How the hell is Eliasson redundant ? Youngest player in the draft, huge with a mean streak. 4 year development plan.
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Is Stanley a defensive D? Regardless, only Kleven is a lock to make the roster. The other guys will be lucky to get a game in the NHL.
Picking based on need means you pass up a Havlat because you have an Alfredsson and a Hossa at RW already.
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Calgary is up there among best in class in the CHL in all aspects and they have a coach with a lot of NHL experience. Hopefully he gets traded in February for a run but for now he is in a very good hands.
Would much rather he be with a top end org that is losing than a bottom end org that is winning. There can be a big difference in resources and coaching.
Yeah, Calgary currently sits just 3 points out of a top 4 spot in the Eastern Conference of the WHL and are in a playoff spot right now.
Nordberg’s development seems to have been fumbled. Hope for the best but it seems like a long shot.
Andonovski looks decent but definitely lacks the standout physical attributes of Eliasson.
The sens are probably hoping they found a new Zadorov with this kid. A dominant physical force.
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At the same age Zadorov was significantly better than Eliasson at pretty much everything besides taking dumb penalties, which Eliasson is better at than any prospect I've seen in years.
What pisses me off about the Eliasson pick is the same thing that pissed me off about the Boucher pick.
There were alternatives available that brought size, toughness and physicality without being completely braindead and talentless.
Sens could have taken Sillinger or Coronato in 2021 instead of Boucher. Both were gritty forwards with more PIMs than games played, and they had top 6 talent and excellent USHL production, unlike Boucher.
They could have taken Brunicke or Pulkkinen in 2024 instead of Eliasson. Both are big guys with strong physical games and excellent tools, but unlike Eliasson they actually have some talent and offensive upside to go along with it.
In both cases the Sens scouting staff just HAD to have the most physical/tough player, even if it meant passing up a physical/tough player with much more skill, IQ and upside.
There were alternatives available that brought size, toughness and physicality without being completely braindead and talentless.
Sens could have taken Sillinger or Coronato in 2021 instead of Boucher. Both were gritty forwards with more PIMs than games played, and they had top 6 talent and excellent USHL production, unlike Boucher.
They could have taken Brunicke or Pulkkinen in 2024 instead of Eliasson. Both are big guys with strong physical games and excellent tools, but unlike Eliasson they actually have some talent and offensive upside to go along with it.
In both cases the Sens scouting staff just HAD to have the most physical/tough player, even if it meant passing up a physical/tough player with much more skill, IQ and upside.
Who will lead the prospects in PM's
Currently
Eliasson with 44 in 16 games with 2 g 0a +8
Andonovski with 41 in 19 games with 2g and 4a -1
Wallenius with 34 in 17 games and 4g 11a -4
Currently
Eliasson with 44 in 16 games with 2 g 0a +8
Andonovski with 41 in 19 games with 2g and 4a -1
Wallenius with 34 in 17 games and 4g 11a -4
Wallenius is just 3rd on his team in PIMs. Not ready yet.
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Nordberg has 38 PIMS in 12 games so he's got to be in the mix here too.
You are correct that is a high number but i believe he received 15 of those PM's in his last game.
No question there, I should have said poor man’s. It’s clear Eliasson wasn’t drafted for his puck moving.
What he does bring is rare natural penchant for violence and very rare size. Guys with that size and attitude always get drafted a few rounds higher than they should.
That is true. I don't buy the argument that he would have been available in the mid-rounds.
Players like him to get overdrafted because of their uniqueness relative to the rest of the draft class.
You can justify probably wasting a 2nd/3rd rounder on a guy like Eliasson if you're a team like say Utah or Anaheim that has a top prospect pool overflowing with talent that is missing some toughness, but it was absolutely the wrong pick for a team like the Sens that has little to no talent in the pipeline after trading away a boatload of picks in recent years and largely blowing the ones they did use.
But our scouts can't help themselves. They make the Burke era Leafs' scouting staff look normal by comparison. Just an insane obsession with toughness and physicality over all else.
