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Hale The Villain said:
Based on what? 3 points in 24 games and I just looked through his PIM totals and he's taken 23 minor penalties, so basically one per game on average.

No D that brings zero offense and puts the team on the man advantage at least once a game with a dumb penalty is going to bring a positive impact overall, even if he's playing physical.
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You should watch him play. He’s been much better than expected. His lateral mobility is quite good and he uses his reach and stick quite well. A few of his penalties have been due to him just being bigger. He’s a real prospect but it’s going to be 4 years of development IMO.
 
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Moore is not in the USHL anymore he is with London Knighs of the OHL

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that's Blake Montgomery
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Sam Dickinson's impressive season is definitely showcasing his exceptional skating ability and his offensive production is no doubt impressive.

However, draft guides that were even high on him do raise questions about his decision-making and hockey sense. The London Knights' style of play, characterized by end-to-end action and odd-man rushes, complements Dickinson's strengths. He is the perfect player for that system.

The key question regarding Dickinson's projectability into the NHL is how he will adapt to a more structured, less open style of play at higher levels. As the pace quickens and space diminishes, his decision-making and ability to read the game will become of increased importance. I personally think these are not his strong suites and will force him to sacrifice offense and become less assertive in joining the rush. It will be interesting, at the WJC, when Dickinson plays good teams that are on-par in talent.

Is there resource that will quantify points off the rush?

But I agree, he is certainly having an impressive season and he is in the process of changing minds. He definitely is a superior player in joining and defending the rush.

With Yakemchuk, with his lack of of sort area quickness, he is unable to generate time and space for himself by simply grabbling the puck and exploding up the ice, Every play is more contested. I think this is why he appeared closer than Dickinson or Parekh in the pre-season. He can't just skate himself out of trouble, so he excels more in a structured game. I watched his last game, the teddy bear classic, and he looked enormous . I think he is still growing - Calgary has him listed at 6'4. I think, if he improves his balance and lower body strength, he will make people regret every bad word they said about him leading up to the 20204 draft. And if not, he will be a solid top four d, and we will be asking ourselves a lot of what ifs....

I think this quote from Staois is interesting: “In our view, Carter is having a tremendous season and his ability to thrive under pressure is something we feel Team Canada could have benefited from in a high-stakes tournament,”
 
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Sam Dickinson's impressive season is definitely showcasing his exceptional skating ability and his offensive production is no doubt impressive.

However, draft guides that were even high on him do raise questions about his decision-making and hockey sense. The London Knights' style of play, characterized by end-to-end action and odd-man rushes, complements Dickinson's strengths. He is the perfect player for that system.

The key question regarding Dickinson's projectability into the NHL is how he will adapt to a more structured, less open style of play at higher levels. As the pace quickens and space diminishes, his decision-making and ability to read the game will become of increased importance. I personally think these are not his strong suites and will force him to sacrifice offense and become less assertive in joining the rush. It will be interesting, at the WJC, when Dickinson plays good teams that are on-par in talent.

Is there resource that will quantify points of the rush?

But I agree, he is certainly having an impressive season and he is in the process of changing minds. He definitely is a superior player in joining and defending the rush.
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YEah I always saw him as a less intelligent Sanderson. While he could very well end up being the better player long term than Yakemchuk, I think Yakemchuk's skillset is necessary for the Sens more than Dickinson. Likewise, I feel Yakemchuk is the type of player that does better in a structured professional environment where he isn't forced to be that guy like on his team right now versus Dickinson being that guy. Dickinson would have been perfect for my 2nd team, the Flames though. They need a Dman that has the means of becoming a Slavin like Dickinson.
 
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Bjornar Moxnes said:
YEah I always saw him as a less intelligent Sanderson. While he could very well end up being the better player long term than Yakemchuk, I think Yakemchuk's skillset is necessary for the Sens more than Dickinson. Likewise, I feel Yakemchuk is the type of player that does better in a structured professional environment where he isn't forced to be that guy like on his team right now versus Dickinson being that guy. Dickinson would have been perfect for my 2nd team, the Flames though. They need a Dman that has the means of becoming a Slavin like Dickinson.
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Yes, I added to my post, and spoke about Yakemchuk, but I completely agree.
 
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Sam Dickinson's impressive season is definitely showcasing his exceptional skating ability and his offensive production is no doubt impressive.

However, draft guides that were even high on him do raise questions about his decision-making and hockey sense. The London Knights' style of play, characterized by end-to-end action and odd-man rushes, complements Dickinson's strengths. He is the perfect player for that system.

The key question regarding Dickinson's projectability into the NHL is how he will adapt to a more structured, less open style of play at higher levels. As the pace quickens and space diminishes, his decision-making and ability to read the game will become of increased importance. I personally think these are not his strong suites and will force him to sacrifice offense and become less assertive in joining the rush. It will be interesting, at the WJC, when Dickinson plays good teams that are on-par in talent.

Is there resource that will quantify points off the rush?

But I agree, he is certainly having an impressive season and he is in the process of changing minds. He definitely is a superior player in joining and defending the rush.

With Yakemchuk, with his lack of of sort area quickness, he is unable to generate time and space for himself by simply grabbling the puck and exploding up the ice, Every play is more contested. I think this is why he appeared closer than Dickinson or Parekh in the pre-season. He can't just skate himself out of trouble, so he excels more in a structured game. I watched his last game, the teddy bear classic, and he looked enormous . I think he is still growing - Calgary has him listed at 6'4. I think, if he improves his balance and lower body strength, he will make people regret every bad word they said about him leading up to the 20204 draft. And if not, he will be a solid top four d, and we will be asking ourselves a lot of what ifs....

I think this quote from Staois is interesting: “In our view, Carter is having a tremendous season and his ability to thrive under pressure is something we feel Team Canada could have benefited from in a high-stakes tournament,”
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I'm off for the next week, so have ample time :laugh:. Without sportlogic you'd need to watch all the goals and classify it yourself, so it will be different depending who is looking. Many are obvious, a vast majority of his points came from in zone play. Never counted the emoty net points he grabbed.

Assist 1 - October 4th- Standing still on half wall
Assist 2 - October 5th - PP, Pass from point down low
Assist 3 - October 9th - SH, broke up entry and pass up boards to Cowan
Goal 1 - October 9th - PP, 1 time blast from half wall
Goal 2 - October 11th - PP, screened muffin from the point
Goal 3 - October 11th - PP, picks corner standing still at top of circle
Goal 4 - October 11th -PP, picks puck up on drop at own blueline, skates in and scores from slot
Goal 5 - October 18th - PP, 1 timer from faceoff dot
Assist 4 - October 25th - 4v4, passed puck off standing on half wall
Goal 6 - October 25th - OT 3v3, skates puck in, puck bounces off the boards over the other teams stick coming back the other way, shoots high standing still at the faceoff dot
Assist 5 - October 26th - SH, passes puck from behind his own goalline for a breakaway
Goal 7 - October 26th - Clears zone and gets sent in on Breakaway
Assist 6 - October 27th - PP, behind the back pass from half wall for 1 time goal
Assist 7 - October 27th - Chincy assist, dumps puck in and gets secondary assist
Assist 8 - October 27th - Empty Net, chincy assist, clears puck and Cowan skates in breakaway
Assist 9 - November 1st - PP, passes puck from halfwall, goes around for a 1 timer from the slot
Assist 10 - November 3rd - Could not find Video. Was on PP, assuming it was in zone
Assist 11 - November 6th - PP, pass from top of the umbrealla; set play
Goal 8 - November 6th - Slapshot from halfwall setup in zone, PP ended a second before
Goal 9 - November 8th - Dickinson skates puck in from Center and goes high
Goal 10 - November 8th - Shot from top of circle on powerplay
Goal 11 - November 8th - Shot from half-wall after sustained pressure in zone
Assist 12 - November 10th - pass off faceoff win in zone, shot from point
Assist 13 - November 10th - pass, and then point shot tipped while in zone
Assist 14 - November 10th - Empty Net, chincy assist, clears puck and Cowan scores
Assist 15 - November 15th - PP, passes puck down low and is cycled to slot
Assist 16 - November 15th - PP, sets up 1 timer from low halfwall
Assist 17 - November 15th - SH, breaks up entry on blueline and gets puck up
Assist 18 - November 15th - Chincy assist, dumps puck, they retrieve and cycle to front of net
Assist 19 - November 17th - Keeps puck in at blueline, passes through the box to for a slot setup
Goal 12 - November 19th - PP, takes puck up ice for a give and go
Assist 20 - November 22nd - Down a goal with goalie pulled. Passes puck from halfwall to setup a slot 1 T
Assist 21 -November 23rd- Keeps puck in zone, breaks his stick. Montgomery does all thew work. Pretty chnicy.
Goal 13 - November 23rd - Shot from top of circles after being setup in offensive zone
Assist 22 - November 23rd - Stretch pass from own zone to spring the forward
Assist 23 - November 23rd - Pass from own zone, forward skates up and buttonhook for the trailer
Assit 24 - November 23rd - Puts puck deep from the blueline, defender makes mistake on hop
Assist 25 - November 23rd - SH, clears puck out for a breakaway
Assist 26 - Novmber 28th - Skates puck through middle, sends guy ion on clear break
Assist 27 - November 29th - Breaks up play at own blueline, in on a breakaway and Montgomery puts away empty net rebound
Goal 14 - December 1st - 3 on 2/1, gets sent in alone
Assist 28 - December 1st - carrying into zone 3 v 3, hits trailer
Assist 29 - December 1st - PP, shot from point tipped in
Goal 15 - December 1st - PP, shot from top of umbrella
Assist 30 - December 1st - PP, shot from point leades to rebound goal in front

Generously, you can say about 12/43 of his non-empty net were generated off the rush, and even then ability to generate off the rush would a positive
 
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I'm off for the next week, so have ample time :laugh:. Without sportlogic you'd need to watch all the goals and classify it yourself, so it will be different depending who is looking. Many are obvious, a vast majority of his points came from in zone play. Never counted the emoty net points he grabbed.

Assist 1 - October 4th- Standing still on half wall
Assist 2 - October 5th - PP, Pass from point down low
Assist 3 - October 9th - SH, broke up entry and pass up boards to Cowan
Goal 1 - October 9th - PP, 1 time blast from half wall
Goal 2 - October 11th - PP, screened muffin from the point
Goal 3 - October 11th - PP, picks corner standing still at top of circle
Goal 4 - October 11th -PP, picks puck up on drop at own blueline, skates in and scores from slot
Goal 5 - October 18th - PP, 1 timer from faceoff dot
Assist 4 - October 25th - 4v4, passed puck off standing on half wall
Goal 6 - October 25th - OT 3v3, skates puck in, puck bounces off the boards over the other teams stick coming back the other way, shoots high standing still at the faceoff dot
Assist 5 - October 26th - SH, passes puck from behind his own goalline for a breakaway
Goal 7 - October 26th - Clears zone and gets sent in on Breakaway
Assist 6 - October 27th - PP, behind the back pass from half wall for 1 time goal
Assist 7 - October 27th - Chincy assist, dumps puck in and gets secondary assist
Assist 8 - October 27th - Empty Net, chincy assist, clears puck and Cowan skates in breakaway
Assist 9 - November 1st - PP, passes puck from halfwall, goes around for a 1 timer from the slot
Assist 10 - November 3rd - Could not find Video. Was on PP, assuming it was in zone
Assist 11 - November 6th - PP, pass from top of the umbrealla; set play
Goal 8 - November 6th - Slapshot from halfwall setup in zone, PP ended a second before
Goal 9 - November 8th - Dickinson skates puck in from Center and goes high
Goal 10 - November 8th - Shot from top of circle on powerplay
Goal 11 - November 8th - Shot from half-wall after sustained pressure in zone
Assist 12 - November 10th - pass off faceoff win in zone, shot from point
Assist 13 - November 10th - pass, and then point shot tipped while in zone
Assist 14 - November 10th - Empty Net, chincy assist, clears puck and Cowan scores
Assist 15 - November 15th - PP, passes puck down low and is cycled to slot
Assist 16 - November 15th - PP, sets up 1 timer from low halfwall
Assist 17 - November 15th - SH, breaks up entry on blueline and gets puck up
Assist 18 - November 15th - Chincy assist, dumps puck, they retrieve and cycle to front of net
Assist 19 - November 17th - Keeps puck in at blueline, passes through the box to for a slot setup
Goal 12 - November 19th - PP, takes puck up ice for a give and go
Assist 20 - November 22nd - Down a goal with goalie pulled. Passes puck from halfwall to setup a slot 1 T
Assist 21 -November 23rd- Keeps puck in zone, breaks his stick. Montgomery does all thew work. Pretty chnicy.
Goal 13 - November 23rd - Shot from top of circles after being setup in offensive zone
Assist 22 - November 23rd - Stretch pass from own zone to spring the forward
Assist 23 - November 23rd - Pass from own zone, forward skates up and buttonhook for the trailer
Assit 24 - November 23rd - Puts puck deep from the blueline, defender makes mistake on hop
Assist 25 - November 23rd - SH, clears puck out for a breakaway
Assist 26 - Novmber 28th - Skates puck through middle, sends guy ion on clear break
Assist 27 - November 29th - Breaks up play at own blueline, in on a breakaway and Montgomery puts away empty net rebound
Goal 14 - December 1st - 3 on 2/1, gets sent in alone
Assist 28 - December 1st - carrying into zone 3 v 3, hits trailer
Assist 29 - December 1st - PP, shot from point tipped in
Goal 15 - December 1st - PP, shot from top of umbrella
Assist 30 - December 1st - PP, shot from point leades to rebound goal in front

Generously, you can say about 12/43 of his non-empty net were generated off the rush, and even then ability to generate off the rush would a positive
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Thanks for this, it is impressive work. You classify 3 on 3 as not off the the rush, but I would tend to disagree. 3 on 3 is almost by definition off the rush, with so munch time and space.

30 (or 31 if you count 3 on 3) of his 43 points listed are on the power play or off-the rush, where there is this is more open space. It is a significant statistic. I don't think you can write off or minimize Dickinson's numbers, but is food for thought. Moreover, you point to play or two where the Dickinson is the beneficiary of someone else doing all the work. Dickinson plays on a team that is exceptionally talented (he is a big part of that) and they just have teams on their heals.

It is very small sample(only two games not in the lineup), but London seems to score about 4.5 goals a game whether Dickinson is in the lineup or not. The team is a juggernaut. Conversely, Calgary averaged 2.6 goals per game with Yakemchuk(5 games) out of the lineup. The team is up to 3.76 goals a game now. Howe has definitely helped output(and will so in the future), but he has only been around of 4 games.

Just like I don't believe Evan Bouchard is as good as his 2023/224 stat line, I don't believe Dickinson is an offensive force. I think he will be solid defensemen who consistently racks up less than 40 points per season in the NHL. As previously said, he will be a poor man's Jake Sanderson. How many points a season do think Dickinson gets on average at the NHL level?

Both team context and the nature of his points are valid considerations when projecting his future NHL performance.

And besides, in all likelihood, Dickinson's production will slow down and reality will begin again on this player.
 
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Thanks for this, it is impressive work. You classify 3 on 3 as not off the the rush, but I would tend to disagree. 3 on 3 is almost by definition off the rush, with so munch time and space.

30 (or 31 if you count 3 on 3) of his 43 points listed are on the power play or off-the rush, where there is this is more open space. It is a significant statistic. I don't think you can write off or minimize Dickinson's numbers, but is food for thought. Moreover, you point to play or two where the Dickinson is the beneficiary of someone else doing all the work. Dickinson plays on a team that is exceptionally talented (he is a big part of that) and they just have teams on their heals.

It is very small sample(only two games not in the lineup), but London seems to score about 4.5 goals a game whether Dickinson is in the lineup or not. The team is a juggernaut. Conversely, Calgary averaged 2.6 goals per game with Yakemchuk(5 games) out of the lineup. The team is up to 3.76 goals a game now. Howe has definitely helped output(and will so in the future), but he has only been around of 4 games.

Just like I don't believe Evan Bouchard is as good as his 2023/224 stat line, I don't believe Dickinson is an offensive force. I think he will be solid defensemen who consistently racks up less than 40 points per season in the NHL. As previously said, he will be a poor man's Jake Sanderson. How many points a season do think Dickinson gets on average at the NHL level?

Both team context and the nature of his points are valid considerations when projecting his future NHL performance.

And besides, in all likelihood, Dickinson's production will slow down and reality will begin again on this player.
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That's generally how most D get their points. On the PP or off the rush. I don't really think it makes much sense to qualify a guy getting points as less valuable because he's getting them off the rush or PP, that's how the vast majority are scored

Yak, for example has 14 powerplay points. His ES points are: (wife is wondering why I’m streaming dozens of hockey clips..)

ES assist 1 - October 19th - pokes the puck up boards in his own end, team goes on rush and scores on 2 v 1
ES goal 1 - November 4th -follows rush up ice, shot from dot after sustained pressure in zone
ES assist 2 - November 8th - passes to D partner who shoots. Kicked in by forward, surprised it counted
ES assist 3 - November 11th - shovels puck up the boards at own blueline, bounces over D's stick for a 2 on 1
ES assist 4 - November 11th - Stretch pass from own zone for a 3 on 0 from center
ES assist 5 - November 15th - Skates down low into zone and passes puck out for a tap in
ES goal 2 - November 22nd - Skates puck in on PP, unloads 1 timer from half wall after setup. Scored the exact second the penalty ended, announcers called it a PP at the time. Was PP goal for all intents and purposes, Dickinson had 1 similar.
ES goal 3 - November 29th - Yakemchuk is the trailer/late guy on a 3 on 2 rush from own blueline
ES assist 4 - November 30th - Won faceoff, Yak skates puck down the boards and passes cross crease

Yak's point's off the rush or off a PP are 19/23, much more significantkly slanted, not taking into account PP/ES distribution. And in all, it really doesn't mean anything, because that's how a vast majority of goals are scored in the CHL. If we are going to be harsh on Dickenson for producing off the rush or PP (which I would disagree with), Yak is doing so at a much greater level proportionately.

D's who can create odd man rushes with timely pinches, stretch passes, and follow up plays to create odd man rushes, are extremely valuable, and getting points off that kind of turn is a positive. Both Yak and Dickinson are great at it, definitely not a way to say someone is going to have trouble adjusting moving on.
 
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That's generally how most D get their points. On the PP or off the rush. I don't really think it makes much sense to qualify a guy getting points as less valuable because he's getting them off the rush or PP, that's how the vast majority are scored

Yak, for example has 14 powerplay points. His ES points are: (wife is wondering why I’m streaming dozens of hockey clips..)

ES assist 1 - October 19th - pokes the puck up boards in his own end, team goes on rush and scores on 2 v 1
ES goal 1 - November 4th -follows rush up ice, shot from dot after sustained pressure in zone
ES assist 2 - November 8th - passes to D partner who shoots. Kicked in by forward, surprised it counted
ES assist 3 - November 11th - shovels puck up the boards at own blueline, bounces over D's stick for a 2 on 1
ES assist 4 - November 11th - Stretch pass from own zone for a 3 on 0 from center
ES assist 5 - November 15th - Skates down low into zone and passes puck out for a tap in
ES goal 2 - November 22nd - Skates puck in on PP, unloads 1 timer from half wall after setup. Scored the exact second the penalty ended, announcers called it a PP at the time. Was PP goal for all intents and purposes, Dickinson had 1 similar.
ES goal 3 - November 29th - Yakemchuk is the trailer/late guy on a 3 on 2 rush from own blueline
ES assist 4 - November 30th - Won faceoff, Yak skates puck down the boards and passes cross crease

Yak's point's off the rush or off a PP are 19/23, much more significantkly slanted, not taking into account PP/ES distribution. And in all, it really doesn't mean anything, because that's how a vast majority of goals are scored in the CHL. If we are going to be harsh on Dickenson for producing off the rush or PP (which I would disagree with), Yak is doing so at a much greater level proportionately.

D's who can create odd man rushes with timely pinches, stretch passes, and follow up plays to create odd man rushes, are extremely valuable, and getting points off that kind of turn is a positive. Both Yak and Dickinson are great at it, definitely not a way to say someone is going to have trouble adjusting moving on.
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It is a fact that London, with their exceptional talent, can simply outscore their opponents and engage in an open style, exchanging chances. Calgary is one of the best shot suppression teams in the WHL (first or second last time I checked), but their goaltending has been absolutely atrocious, so they employ a style of locking things down. Their number one goaltender has a 3.44 GAA and .885 save percentage. The next guy, Buenaventura, who was the original starter and then released, had a 3.04 GAA and .872 save percentage. It is quite extraordinary for a goaltender to have a 3+ goals against average while simultaneously posting such a low save percentage.Calgary does not have the talent, nor the goaltending, to open things up and trade chances. Yakemchuk rarely pinches this season and rarely joins the rush. I have said as much in my evaluations of Yakemchuk this season in previous posts.

If you look at the Calgary D as a whole, the next D after Yakemchuk in scoring is Hunter Aura, who has 9 points in 25 games. Reese Hamilton, who was considered to be an up-and-coming star, had only 3 points in 20 games before being shipped out of town. He had 31 points in 41 games last season. I'm not even sure Aura would be a regular on the London Knights, while Dickinson is stapled to either Bonk (1st Rounder) or Henry Brzustewicz (possible late first-rounder this season). My point is Calgary defense is significantly less skilled and systematically more constrained in activating the offensive rush, which will greatly decrease offensive production.

Calgary is characterized by marginal to weak overall talent. Calgary had only one NHL-affiliated forward prospect; now they have 2 with the acquisition of Howe. London has 8 forwards that have been drafted and are affiliated with NHL clubs. This is an insane disparity between their situations.

Every time Dickinson steps on the ice, he is surrounded by an incredible amount of talent that is given the green light to push the pace and exchange chances. This is not the world in which Yakemchuk inhabits. Calgary has scored about 30 less goals than London, which means 90 less potential points to be distributed among the team.

So yes, rush chances are important, and generating rush chances are signs of a good player, but London, being so talented, would create rush chances and score goals regardless of whether Dickinson was playing or not. They are that good. And as a great player, playing 30 minutes a night, on a great team, it will do wonders in inflating point totals. I do not his point totals are representative of his offensive prowess. I certainly don't believe he is better player than Jake Sanderson., nor do I believe he will be better than Yakemchuk fours years down the road.
 
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Sam Dickinson's impressive season is definitely showcasing his exceptional skating ability and his offensive production is no doubt impressive.

However, draft guides that were even high on him do raise questions about his decision-making and hockey sense. The London Knights' style of play, characterized by end-to-end action and odd-man rushes, complements Dickinson's strengths. He is the perfect player for that system.

The key question regarding Dickinson's projectability into the NHL is how he will adapt to a more structured, less open style of play at higher levels. As the pace quickens and space diminishes, his decision-making and ability to read the game will become of increased importance. I personally think these are not his strong suites and will force him to sacrifice offense and become less assertive in joining the rush. It will be interesting, at the WJC, when Dickinson plays good teams that are on-par in talent.

Is there resource that will quantify points off the rush?

But I agree, he is certainly having an impressive season and he is in the process of changing minds. He definitely is a superior player in joining and defending the rush.

With Yakemchuk, with his lack of of sort area quickness, he is unable to generate time and space for himself by simply grabbling the puck and exploding up the ice, Every play is more contested. I think this is why he appeared closer than Dickinson or Parekh in the pre-season. He can't just skate himself out of trouble, so he excels more in a structured game. I watched his last game, the teddy bear classic, and he looked enormous . I think he is still growing - Calgary has him listed at 6'4. I think, if he improves his balance and lower body strength, he will make people regret every bad word they said about him leading up to the 20204 draft. And if not, he will be a solid top four d, and we will be asking ourselves a lot of what ifs....

I think this quote from Staois is interesting: “In our view, Carter is having a tremendous season and his ability to thrive under pressure is something we feel Team Canada could have benefited from in a high-stakes tournament,”
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Funny, I was low on Evan Bouchard as a prospect for exactly these reasons. Jury is still out on that one, imo.

Not trying to compare Dickinson to Bouchard as I think he is a more rounded player but what you said is exactly how I felt about Bouchard, the last great D prospect to come out of the knights system.
 
Dislike seeing a sens prospect get lit up. Hate seeing a sens prospect lit up by a leafs prospect.

 
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