Injury Report: 2024-2025 Injury thread | HF’s Longest Thread Just Got Longer

[DrunkTurtle]

Landy has been done for ages. A lot of talk about nothing.

 

[LOFIN]

Landy has been done for ages. A lot of talk about nothing.

As long as his contract is on the books with the Avalanche, and he doesn't come out and say "I'm done", it will remain a talking point because it has huge implications on the roster.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Let him play shortened minutes. San Jose already got their monthly win out of their system last night.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

As long as his contract is on the books with the Avalanche, and he doesn't come out and say "I'm done", it will remain a talking point because it has huge implications on the roster.

Sure, but the writing has been on the wall for long to see and still many pencil Landy in the future lineups.

It's time for Landeskog to suck it up and call it quits. Enough is enough.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Sure, but the writing has been on the wall for long to see and still many pencil Landy in the future lineups.

It's time for Landeskog to suck it up and call it quits. Enough is enough.

That may be your opinion, but it's clearly not happening.

I'm happy about that.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

That may be your opinion, but it's clearly not happening.

I'm happy about that.

Happy about dragging on the inevitable?

The man is not going to make a comeback. Not after 3 or 4 years.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Happy about dragging on the inevitable?

The man is not going to make a comeback. Not after 3 or 4 years.

Landeskog can do whatever makes him happy.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

Landeskog can do whatever makes him happy.

It's one player. At some point you gotta accept what's going on, respect the organization and the fans and move on.

This has only created uncertainty for management making roster building more difficult, questions in the locker room, no official captain for the Avs for years, uncertainty among fans etc.

For such a leader one would think he would do the right thing here sooner.

 

[Gumballhead]

It's one player. At some point you gotta accept what's going on, respect the organization and the fans and move on.

This has only created uncertainty for management making roster building more difficult, questions in the locker room, no official captain for the Avs for years, uncertainty among fans etc.

For such a leader one would think he would do the right thing here sooner.

Easy for you to say. I bet the people who know him don't mind one bit.

 

[CobraAcesS]

It's one player. At some point you gotta accept what's going on, respect the organization and the fans and move on.

This has only created uncertainty for management making roster building more difficult, questions in the locker room, no official captain for the Avs for years, uncertainty among fans etc.

For such a leader one would think he would do the right thing here sooner.

He'll have a place on this roster as long as he wants it. That's just a fact.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Easy for you to say. I bet the people who know him don't mind one bit.

Exactly, find a single player on this team, a single coach or upper management person who thinks he's being selfish or not being a leader.

Like it or not because it doesn't really matter what anyone on the internet thinks, Landy is still a part of this time until he says otherwise. He's earned the right as CMac has said many, many times.

I want nothing more than to see him back on the ice at some point. The Can will explode when he does and the team will rally around him, even if he's stuck playing 3rd line minutes.

 

[CobraAcesS]

 

[Bender]

He's going to come back and play in the playoffs. He might not play every game and he might not be pain-free but he'll be back.

He'll be the first player in NHL history to go from Stanley Cup to Stanley Cup with 3 years in between.

Then he's going to call it for good (although staying on LTIR) like Weber and Price did.

I've felt like this was going to be 'the way' for the past 2 years. It's going to happen.

 

[BleedWell]

He's going to come back and play in the playoffs. He might not play every game and he might not be pain-free but he'll be back.

He'll be the first player in NHL history to go from Stanley Cup to Stanley Cup with 3 years in between.

Then he's going to call it for good (although staying on LTIR) like Weber and Price did.

I've felt like this was going to be 'the way' for the past 2 years. It's going to happen.

Are the Avs gonna trade him this trade deadline?

 

[dahrougem2]

He's going to come back and play in the playoffs. He might not play every game and he might not be pain-free but he'll be back.

He'll be the first player in NHL history to go from Stanley Cup to Stanley Cup with 3 years in between.

Then he's going to call it for good (although staying on LTIR) like Weber and Price did.

I've felt like this was going to be 'the way' for the past 2 years. It's going to happen.

Something has gone wrong. Lonzo Ball experiences no pain playing pro basketball while Landy does 23 months later trying to play hockey.

Something in Landy's rehab is not working, nor does it look like it's going to work.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It's one player. At some point you gotta accept what's going on, respect the organization and the fans and move on.

This has only created uncertainty for management making roster building more difficult, questions in the locker room, no official captain for the Avs for years, uncertainty among fans etc.

For such a leader one would think he would do the right thing here sooner.

One. Gabe Landeskog owns a contract with the Colorado Avalanche. There is simply nothing the Avalanche could do even if they were so inclined, which would make them not only completely wrong but also the biggest asshole club ever. Bailing on your all-star, stanely cup champion captain is just not ever going to set well with a very large portion of the population here and for good reasons.

Are the Avs gonna trade him this trade deadline?

I should hope not.

 

[hockeyfish]

He's going to come back and play in the playoffs. He might not play every game and he might not be pain-free but he'll be back.

He'll be the first player in NHL history to go from Stanley Cup to Stanley Cup with 3 years in between.

Then he's going to call it for good (although staying on LTIR) like Weber and Price did.

I've felt like this was going to be 'the way' for the past 2 years. It's going to happen.

I think this is what happens. He's going to want to go out on his own terms. He porbably won't be any worse than the group of 4th liners we already have. And it doesn't hurt the team.

Something has gone wrong. Lonzo Ball experiences no pain playing pro basketball while Landy does 23 months later trying to play hockey.

Something in Landy's rehab is not working, nor does it look like it's going to work.

Two players, with different bodies, playing different sports, it's just not a big sample size to say that something went wrong.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think this is what happens. He's going to want to go out on his own terms. He porbably won't be any worse than the group of 4th liners we already have. And it doesn't hurt the team.


Two players, with different bodies, playing different sports, it's just not a big sample size to say that something went wrong.

Of course, but it was the same surgery done by the same doctor and there is precedent for NHLers not coming back from this.

The fact that he still experiences pain skating is a very bad sign for any comeback.

 

[AvBuff]

Are we sure Gabe is Swedish? That response don't sound like Stockholm . . .

 

[CobraAcesS]

Of course, but it was the same surgery done by the same doctor and there is precedent for NHLers not coming back from this.

The fact that he still experiences pain skating is a very bad sign for any comeback.

Similar surgeries, I seen something detailing differences, but I don't remember the exact wording.

I do remember thinking Landeskog's surgery didn't sound quite as complete or extensive as Lanzo's did. Where Landy's sounded like a partial and Lanzo's sounded like a complete transplant. Something like that.

 

[AvsCOL]

I still maintain, playoffs have been the goal this entire time. He’s going to play.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

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I still maintain, playoffs have been the goal this entire time. He’s going to play.

I'm not sure I actually believe anything anymore, other than this. It's Gabe's decision and always will be.

I would just like to think that he, his doctors, the team's doctors and CMac all come to an agreement that any return in any year prior to the playoffs is unlikely and if he's not ready at training camp, he should just be on LTIR all season so MacFarland at least has that flexibility while giving Gabe every opportunity to come back and honor the remainder of his contract.

There are so many people saying he is done and he should retire. I'll admit, I've probably been an asshole most of my life, treated many better than I should have and unfortunately some worse... but I would never think of asking a man to give up on himself. Hemingway said it best, "But man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed but not defeated."

Gabe has become the Old Man from "The Old Man and the Sea". If you haven't read it, it's not long... a one sitting read if you will. Just an awesome tale of a man's ultimate struggle against the natural world and a beautiful portrayal of never giving up. It's among my top 10 books of all time, even though it's more a novella.

[Edit... @Balthazar reminds me of the sharks in the book. *LOL*]

 

[Balthazar]

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I still maintain, playoffs have been the goal this entire time. He’s going to play.

I would also like to play in this year's playoffs. It doesn't mean much does it.

 

[Bonzai12]

Luongo is the only one to do it, and he gave up like 3.5M to do it. But he was also immediately hired by the Panthers organization after that. And Luongo later stated, it was not his choice. He would've prefered LTIR, but the Panthers couldn't do it and no team was interested at that time. So Tallon basically said "retire, if you want this job".

That’s what I was wondering after I read the LTIR stuff. If Landy has a bunch of years left I guess the Avs could offer him a front office job with x number of years guaranteed (or just pay him the whole lump sum right now) and have him retire. I don’t think the Avs would ever force him to do that though like the Panthers did. I keep thinking through it though and even then - it doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense for either party to actually do that? LTIR is probably the way to go and do it very long term. I honestly don’t see Lando ever playing again. I think at this point it’s just waiting things out until the contract/term isn’t so gigantic and then managing it when the salary remainder due isn’t some huge albatross number.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

That’s what I was wondering after I read the LTIR stuff. If Landy has a bunch of years left I guess the Avs could offer him a front office job with x number of years guaranteed (or just pay him the whole lump sum right now) and have him retire. I don’t think the Avs would ever force him to do that though like the Panthers did. I keep thinking through it though and even then - it doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense for either party to actually do that? LTIR is probably the way to go and do it very long term. I honestly don’t see Lando ever playing again. I think at this point it’s just waiting things out until the contract/term isn’t so gigantic and then managing it when the salary remainder due isn’t some huge albatross number.

It would make absolutely no difference to the team, but if they force Landy to retire, I'll just go back to being a fan of the league like I was for the first 3 or 4 years I got into hockey.