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Speculation: 2024-2025 General Discussion. Threads: 3. Combined goals by Luke and Zemgus: 2

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Sum up: I'm in the 'get Bjorkstand' club. Always snipes against us.
The main positive with Howard, too, is that he finishes. Even if his two-way game up here is minor-league level, the fact that he can put the penny in the pot should earn him at least a late-season big squad look.
 
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Major4Boarding said:
A lot of talk about Vancouver as a partner but I haven’t seen any discussion on Conor Garland. I’d much prefer him over Boeser.

I’m may be alone in this but I have Ike slotted as our 2RW when he’s full on in his role. So, to me, I would like to see a move that perhaps nabs a RW on a 1-2 year deal after this season as placeholder for Howard.

I would love to see, or at least believe, that Howard can slot right in after he’s done at MSU. I think what he’s going to be to told is he’ll spend time in Syracuse but be on the shortlist for call ups here.

And I’m not coming off of my stance on snagging Bjugstad as our 3C. Be it trade (with the intent to sign extension) or this summer as a UFA

A third line that has BDN on LW - Another Nick at Center - and Geekie on the RW wouldn’t trouble me. Just my thoughts.
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We know Vancouver is actively shopping Boeser while they are probably trying to hold onto Garland.

That aside I think if we are window shopping size can’t be ignored, without Paul or Geekie on our top 6 we are pretty small, adding 165 lb Garland isn’t helping that cause.
 
bov said:
It's a good problem to have when we're debating blue chip prospects, but Howard has never played a pro game and despite multiple camps with TB, didn't appear to be as impactful or ready as Geekie this past fall. I view the latter as being the better prospect with more upside, and I think he would be just as dominant in the Big 10 as Howard is now, if not more so.

Howard might be a bit fresher in a couple months, but if he's getting NHL minutes they'll be heavily sheltered. People need to pump the brakes on this guy.
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thats weird, cuz isaac howard's world junior under 20 looks way better than geekie's. waaaay better.

but i don't want to get into a dialectical conversation about who's better, that's the point. we have two strong young forwards for the first time since, like, 2015? and we're excited to see the second one come into the league hopefully this spring, one who's playing at an elite level at a development league and is garnering votes for being the best in that league.

and i get that you are just trying to tamper expectations about howard, but i am here to tell you that howard is a primal talent gifted to all humanity much like the promethean fire, and you will soon see the light.
 
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Rschmitz said:
We know Vancouver is actively shopping Boeser while they are probably trying to hold onto Garland.

That aside I think if we are window shopping size can’t be ignored, without Paul or Geekie on our top 6 we are pretty small, adding 165 lb Garland isn’t helping that cause.
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Agreed. Garland is a solid player but he gets tossed a lot too. I've seen enough of that. Pass.
 
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It's not like we've never played a guy straight out of NCAA before, Sustr anyone? Playing Howard right away makes a lot more sense than that one.. I doubt JBB cares that much to play hardball over it.
 
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LordStanlersCup said:
I do think Geekie really needs some AHL conditioning but at the same time I know Joel Bouchard is going to drain every ounce of creativity from his game and he will come back as a bottom 6 forechecker so I don't really like this.
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That might not be the worst thing. Has anyone SEEN our bottom 6 lately? Everytime Geekie hits the offensive zone he velcros himself to the nearest possible defender in about 2 seconds and and spends the rest of his shift not being able to unstick himself while he fruitlesly tries to get open or fruitlesly works with the puck. Then the poor fella gets knocked on his ass

He plays a power game being 20 lbs too light. He just has to physically grow is all.
 
I also doubt this means we have some other move coming. Geekie is doing everything right. He just needs to physically grow. There's no sense in dragging this on and killing him in the NHL anymore.


The only evidence we will have of a move is total radio silence from JBB until suddenly it's reported that we made a trade
 
These Are The Days said:
That might not be the worst thing. Has anyone SEEN our bottom 6 lately? Everytime Geekie hits the offensive zone he velcros himself to the nearest possible defender in about 2 seconds and and spends the rest of his shift not being able to unstick himself while he fruitlesly tries to get open or fruitlesly works with the puck. Then the poor fella gets knocked on his ass

He plays a power game being 20 lbs too light. He just has to physically grow is all.
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He holds a lot of trade value so if all we see in him is a bottom 6 forechecker then he needs to be traded. He has shown some creativity on the rush and particulary on his zone entries. Great stick handling and decent skating when he picks up speed but can never stay on his skates and loses too many puck battles. Also never finishes his chances and like you mentioned his positioning in the offensive zone is very questionable.
 
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Point21 said:
Syracuse has 3 games during the break
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Yeah, kind of my point. Instead of him playing 11 minutes a night for a few more games here, then going on break. Why not send him down and let him play 20 minutes a night now and during the break. It makes sense in that regard. I don't believe JBB did it to make some move, I totally believe he will make some knee jerk trade at the deadline. But not now. Hopefully I am wrong, but I don't see it.
 
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DistantThunderRep said:
Yeah, kind of my point. Instead of him playing 11 minutes a night for a few more games here, then going on break. Why not send him down and let him play 20 minutes a night now and during the break. It makes sense in that regard. I don't believe JBB did it to make some move, I totally believe he will make some knee jerk trade at the deadline. But not now. Hopefully I am wrong, but I don't see it.
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Except, as I mentioned in another post, they have no one better to currently take his spot, and these next 4 games before the break are fairly important. Him getting an extra few minutes in a handful of AHL games doesn't seem worth it to lose one of the team's top 9F for this stretch.
 
JTBF81 said:
Except, as I mentioned in another post, they have no one better to currently take his spot, and these next 4 games before the break are fairly important. Him getting an extra few minutes in a handful of AHL games doesn't seem worth it to lose one of the team's top 9F for this stretch.
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maybe Joel Bouchard can teach him how not to fall more than Killorn
 
Better than Lilleberg, big 6'5 stay at home Dman that could pair well with Perbix/Raddysh
 
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