Speculation: 2024-2025 General Discussion III: Welcome back Yanni!

[DistantThunderRep]

This is actually beneficial for Florida. Gets Ekblad to rest and not get his inevitable injury for the playoffs. If they suspended him before the TDL, would that have given them more space or does suspended players still fully count to the cap?

 

[RussianGuyovich]

imagine getting caught for PEDs in a league that employs ovechkin

 

[Stammertime91]

It should be made by someone that's not an obvious Lightning fan, otherwise everyone can tell it's satire. If anyone has any contacts from the Leafs forum or wherever, we need you.

@Soul Assumption you've been summoned

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

Don’t all SC champions from the 6 team era also have asterisks? If not, they should.

(From 2015)

» Passing Judgment on Your Stanley Cup Title

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It was harsh though because DGB saved his strongest venom for us, for obvious (but factually incorrect) reasons:

Tampa Bay Lightning, 2004: Come on.

Verdict: Literally could not count any less.

This is actually beneficial for Florida. Gets Ekblad to rest and not get his inevitable injury for the playoffs. If they suspended him before the TDL, would that have given them more space or does suspended players still fully count to the cap?

Yeah, I wrote this in the main board thread too. Without having a postseason ineligibility penalty attached, this just gets Ekblad a late season break, albeit with a hit to his salary. He won't even miss one road game in the playoffs due to the timing of this suspension. It's basically meaningless.

 

[Felonious Python]

(From 2015)

» Passing Judgment on Your Stanley Cup Title

grantland.com

It was harsh though because DGB saved his strongest venom for us, for obvious (but factually incorrect) reasons:





Yeah, I wrote this in the main board thread too. Without having a postseason ineligibility penalty attached, this just gets Ekblad a late season break, albeit with a hit to his salary. He won't even miss one road game in the playoffs due to the timing of this suspension. It's basically meaningless.

I wouldn't say it's meaningless. Missing the last month of the regular season and needing to step right into game 3 is a disadvantage. He's also in a contract year.

 

[Hoek]

This is actually beneficial for Florida. Gets Ekblad to rest and not get his inevitable injury for the playoffs. If they suspended him before the TDL, would that have given them more space or does suspended players still fully count to the cap?

He doesn't count against the cap now because he's not getting paid, so yeah it would've helped if it was still long enough to keep him out until playoffs.

 

[Felonious Python]

He doesn't count against the cap now because he's not getting paid, so yeah it would've helped if it was still long enough to keep him out until playoffs.

New suspension meta just dropped.

If a team could guarantee a 20-game suspension, it would significantly influence their cap management strategy, especially concerning cap accrual, LTIR usage, and trade deadline planning. Here's how that would factor in, drawing from the sources and our conversation history:

• Immediate and Predictable Cap Relief: A guaranteed 20-game suspension provides immediate and predictable cap relief. The Player Salary and Bonuses that are not paid to such Players shall not count against a Club's Upper Limit or against the Players' Share for the duration of the suspension. This is unlike LTIR, which requires a player to be declared unfit to play for an extended period.
• Cap Accrual: The team could accrue cap space during the suspension. A club with an Averaged Club Salary that is less than the Upper Limit has available Payroll Room.
• Flexibility Compared to LTIR: Unlike LTIR, a suspension doesn't require a player to be deemed unfit to play for an extended period. This provides more flexibility in managing the roster and avoiding potential scrutiny from the league regarding the legitimacy of an injury.
• Trade Deadline Planning:
  • Additional Payroll Room: Prior to the trade deadline, assess the team's Payroll Room. The team may use this room to acquire players.
  • Return from Suspension: Consider the timing of the player's return from suspension relative to the trade deadline. The team must have Payroll Room for such Player's Player Salary and Bonuses in order for such Player to be able to return to Play for the Club.
• Combining with LTIR:
  • Strategic Sequencing: If other players are legitimately injured, the team could strategically combine the cap relief from the suspension with LTIR to maximize available cap space. The team must ensure all LTIR placements are legitimate to avoid potential scrutiny from the Commissioner's Office.
  • LTIR and Cap Accrual: Realize that using LTIR prevents accruing additional cap space. Therefore, LTIR should be used only when exceeding the cap is essential.

In summary, a guaranteed 20-game suspension would be a valuable asset for cap management:

• It provides predictable cap relief, allowing for accrual of cap space and greater flexibility than LTIR.
• Teams could strategically time the suspension and subsequent return of the player to coincide with key dates such as the trade deadline, thereby maximizing their ability to add talent while remaining cap compliant.

There's no cap in the playoffs, so making room for him wouldn't matter.

If a player on LTIR gets suspended, the interaction between these two statuses would affect a team's cap management, according to information in the sources and our conversation history.

Here's a breakdown:

• Cap Relief from Suspension: A suspension provides cap relief because "the Player Salary and Bonuses that are not paid to such Players shall not count against a Club's Upper Limit or against the Players' Share for the duration of the suspension".
• LTIR Usage: A team can exceed the Upper Limit by using LTIR.
• Coordination of LTIR and Suspension: Since LTIR is used when a player is "unfit to play," a suspension would mean the player is also unable to play. This could allow a team to continue utilizing LTIR while also benefiting from the additional cap relief provided by the suspension.

In effect, if a player on LTIR is suspended, the team would likely continue to receive the cap relief from LTIR, and then also receive additional relief from the suspension due to the player not being paid his Player Salary and Bonuses.

It's important to note:

• Legitimate LTIR Placements: The team must ensure all LTIR placements are legitimate to avoid potential scrutiny from the Commissioner's Office.
• Playoff Implications: The team must have Payroll Room for such Player's Player Salary and Bonuses in order for such Player to be able to return to Play for the Club. There is no mention in the provided sources indicating that a team receives additional cap relief in the playoffs.

 

[Lightning1995]

Team may be cooked

 

[JTBF81]

Team may be cooked

It's two really bad games after several weeks of being one of the best performing teams in the league. While they need to snap out of this funk quickly if they want to win the division, they are very far from "cooked".

 

[Stammertime91]

Team isn't cooked, just in the process of being seared.

Wake the f*** up guys.