Speculation: 2024-2025 General Discussion III: 4 nations, 4th line scoring

[JTBF81]

I'd be good with either, or both if the cap worked and the acquisition cost wasn't terrible, Evans and/or Armia. Both improve the middle/bottom 6, the pk, and have a solid 2 way game. Montreal might need to retain on Armia unless Tampa was sending salary back, but if that's the route JBB chooses to go, then it seems fine. Not interested in re-acqyiring Maroon.

 

[DFC]

Sheary for Maroon

I'll bet a few teams will go after maroon.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I'd be good with either, or both if the cap worked and the acquisition cost wasn't terrible, Evans and/or Armia. Both improve the middle/bottom 6, the pk, and have a solid 2 way game. Montreal might need to retain on Armia unless Tampa was sending salary back, but if that's the route JBB chooses to go, then it seems fine. Not interested in re-acqyiring Maroon.

This is a sideways move at best. Our PK is near the top of the league, so is our GA. Evans is rocking a 20% shooting percentage, you think that holds up? What does Armia do considering he was waived this year and then brought back up. Going for both is wasting assets as a knee jerk reaction, and I like Evans too. Friedman is saying Montreal wants a second for Evans, multiple teams are going to jack that price up from there. If that's the price, go to Francis and get Bjorkstrand or Tolvanen by paying more. Evans or Armia don't really bring much to team if there is a bidding war. In the off season, I'm all for trying to sign UFA, but trading assets now is dumb

 

[JTBF81]

This is a sideways move at best. Our PK is near the top of the league, so is our GA. Evans is rocking a 20% shooting percentage, you think that holds up? What does Armia do considering he was waived this year and then brought back up. Going for both is wasting assets as a knee jerk reaction, and I like Evans too. Friedman is saying Montreal wants a second for Evans, multiple teams are going to jack that price up from there. If that's the price, go to Francis and get Bjorkstrand or Tolvanen by paying more. Evans or Armia don't really bring much to team if there is a bidding war. In the off season, I'm all for trying to sign UFA, but trading assets now is dumb

Evans is the same kind of add as Goodrow and to a bit of a lesser degree, Coleman. Most didn't think Hagel could keep that level of play (in terms of shooting %) up either. Not saying that Evans is on the same level as Hagel, but if Tampa looks to not go for a bigger name 2RW, adding someone like Evans for a 3rd line role is not a lateral move given the dearth of offense from the bottom 2 lines. Either Paul could move to line 2, or if Goncalves continues to dp well, it would improve the 3rd line with Paul-Evans-Geekie/Chaffee/additional add.

Armia would be secondary and more of a 4th liner/depth add, but he brings more offense than anyone else in the bottom 6 other than Paul. Bjorkstrand is still my top choice, and Tolvanen would be fine as well, but either of them will cost significantly more than either Evans or Armia, and if Francis makes either of them.available, JBB won't be the only GM submitting an offer in that case either.

If Tampa has multiple moves lined up, Evans and his cheap cap hit for this season allows Tampa more flexibility to make another move (or two), while also not paying much in the way of premium assets more than likely (and if there is a large bidding war over either, then JBB can always bow out if the price is too high for him). Neither is my preferred add, but I also wouldn't complain or think the team was worse off if JBB traded for either (provided the acquisition cost wasn't outrageous).

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Evans is the same kind of add as Goodrow and to a bit of a lesser degree, Coleman. Most didn't think Hagel could keep that level of play (in terms of shooting %) up either. Not saying that Evans is on the same level as Hagel, but if Tampa looks to not go for a bigger name 2RW, adding someone like Evans for a 3rd line role is not a lateral move given the dearth of offense from the bottom 2 lines. Either Paul could move to line 2, or if Goncalves continues to dp well, it would improve the 3rd line with Paul-Evans-Geekie/Chaffee/additional add.

Armia would be secondary and more of a 4th liner/depth add, but he brings more offense than anyone else in the bottom 6 other than Paul. Bjorkstrand is still my top choice, and Tolvanen would be fine as well, but either of them will cost significantly more than either Evans or Armia, and if Francis makes either of them.available, JBB won't be the only GM submitting an offer in that case either.

If Tampa has multiple moves lined up, Evans and his cheap cap hit for this season allows Tampa more flexibility to make another move (or two), while also not paying much in the way of premium assets more than likely (and if there is a large bidding war over either, then JBB can always bow out if the price is too high for him). Neither is my preferred add, but I also wouldn't complain or think the team was worse off if JBB traded for either (provided the acquisition cost wasn't outrageous).

I think Evans is going to cost more than what you think

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Very hard pass on Evans because the cost to get him and his new contract is likely going to outweigh his production. Montreal is probably even less likely to do us any kind of favor than Buffalo would.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Evans is the same kind of add as Goodrow and to a bit of a lesser degree, Coleman. Most didn't think Hagel could keep that level of play (in terms of shooting %) up either. Not saying that Evans is on the same level as Hagel, but if Tampa looks to not go for a bigger name 2RW, adding someone like Evans for a 3rd line role is not a lateral move given the dearth of offense from the bottom 2 lines. Either Paul could move to line 2, or if Goncalves continues to dp well, it would improve the 3rd line with Paul-Evans-Geekie/Chaffee/additional add.

Armia would be secondary and more of a 4th liner/depth add, but he brings more offense than anyone else in the bottom 6 other than Paul. Bjorkstrand is still my top choice, and Tolvanen would be fine as well, but either of them will cost significantly more than either Evans or Armia, and if Francis makes either of them.available, JBB won't be the only GM submitting an offer in that case either.

If Tampa has multiple moves lined up, Evans and his cheap cap hit for this season allows Tampa more flexibility to make another move (or two), while also not paying much in the way of premium assets more than likely (and if there is a large bidding war over either, then JBB can always bow out if the price is too high for him). Neither is my preferred add, but I also wouldn't complain or think the team was worse off if JBB traded for either (provided the acquisition cost wasn't outrageous).

Friedman is already saying Evans ask is a 2nd. There is going to be multiple teams in that conversation. Good chance that gets bumped to a 1st. If that becomes the price for Evans, it would be better to directly address the scoring issues and pay the premium for Tolvanen or Bjorkstrand if Francis is making them available. That's kind of my point. I like Evans and think he would be a great fit, but the cost if it gets pushed to 1st range, its not worth it to pay that and still not address the scoring issues. Evans shooting at 20% playing 15.5 minutes a game and might get close to 20 goals this season. I don't like that high shooting percentage, it was like Coleman coming and his shooting percentage dropping but his defensive game completely made up for it. We have enough defensive forwards, we need scoring depth and I don't see Evans being that solution for scoring depth and what he will cost is going to should push us to actually address scoring. But hey, I am just dumb internet shit poster, so I could be completely wrong (most likely).

Goodrow and Coleman made sense at the time because we really didn't have the PK or bottom lines shutting down anyone. We played games before them as a track meet, winning strictly by outscoring 5-4, 6-4 games. Right now, we aren't doing that. As much as we shit on the team, defensively, from the forward core and special teams, they are doing the best they have done since Goodrow and Coleman. If Armia is cheap, like 4th round pick, sure grab him. Whatever. But he doesn't make us much better or worse, he really doesn't move the needle much aside from depth in case of injuries.

 

[creg]

With the cap going up the value deals will be productive players on ELC's/players with term, I'd much rather trade extra for Bjorkstrand and have him for next year than trade less for Evans only to sign him to an equivalent contract.

Also don't really think Evans is much of a fit, feels like some of his biggest selling points (center & pk) don't actually matter to us.