2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[simon IC]

Oilers and Leafs have issues at goaltender. Do you think either of those teams would try to make a move for Binny or even Hofer?

I honestly can't think of anyone on the Oilers who fits our needs.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Oilers and Leafs have issues at goaltender. Do you think either of those teams would try to make a move for Binny or even Hofer?

They would need to offer up a lot for either. Armstrong came out and said that we are in the game of getting ready for a deep playoff run. Trading our #1 Goalie or our Young Backup who could become the #1 when Binner leaves would need a large payday.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Oilers and Leafs have issues at goaltender. Do you think either of those teams would try to make a move for Binny or even Hofer?

I don't think the Leafs will make any big moves at goalie. Stolarz/Woll are fairly decent, and they have to sort out the mess that is their core ghosting when the stakes get high.

 

[Dr Robot]

It’s completely unrealistic he would sign with us or sign a contract that would work but Tavares would be a good 2C behind Thomas for the next few years.

 

[Xerloris]

I honestly can't think of anyone on the Oilers who fits our needs.

McDavid

 

[simon IC]

McDavid

Lol. Okay.

 

[Reality Czech]

Bennett is a great player. Someone will overpay for his services but he should be a solid 2C for at least the first half of his contract.

I agree Bennett is a force, but he had 1 point more than Schenn did this year. Why is Schenn considered such a liability while everyone is pining for Bennett to be the 2C? The 51 points he had this year was his career high.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I agree Bennett is a force, but he had 1 point more than Schenn did this year. Why is Schenn considered such a liability while everyone is pining for Bennett to be the 2C? The 51 points he had this year was his career high.

You aren’t wrong. I think the linemattes portion is a bit different as Matthew was out a solid chunk of the season, but it’s hard to argue against the long history of data we have of Bennett.

It never hurts to bring in a guy that’s been apart of the really dominant force teams like Florida, but I think we do need to look at what he actually is more than anything. I don’t think he’s any more impactful of an offensive presence than Schenn or Neighbors, and frankly his faceoff numbers aren’t good and he’s a negative about every season he’s been in the NHL.

Someone is going to overpay on a contract for him, and I really hope it doesn’t end up being us. I’d rather overpay on the back half of Granlunds career as opposed to Bennetts, given the length each contract theoretically could be.

 

[Reality Czech]

You aren’t wrong. I think the linemattes portion is a bit different as Matthew was out a solid chunk of the season, but it’s hard to argue against the long history of data we have of Bennett.

It never hurts to bring in a guy that’s been apart of the really dominant force teams like Florida, but I think we do need to look at what he actually is more than anything. I don’t think he’s any more impactful of an offensive presence than Schenn or Neighbors, and frankly his faceoff numbers aren’t good and he’s a negative about every season he’s been in the NHL.

Someone is going to overpay on a contract for him, and I really hope it doesn’t end up being us. I’d rather overpay on the back half of Granlunds career as opposed to Bennetts, given the length each contract theoretically could be.

I'd agree. Obviously nearly every team in the league would take a guy like that as a middle six center, but there's going to be a bidding war for him and the Blues are never the team to win a bidding war for a top free agent.

I think it's more likely we go for a youngish guy with potential like @HighNote said or perhaps a veteran who they can buy low on. Even Lindholm might be a bit too much in terms of contract value and length but if you can get him at a bargain price it's worth looking into. Zacha would be a great fit but I assume him and Pasta are close and doubt Boston wants to piss him off considering how important he is to that team.

Honestly ROR would be a great fit assuming he's ok being a 3C and special teams specialist but not sure he'd be up for that. I feel like that Nashville group might be motivated to run it back and prove they are better than last year.

 

[Xanadude]

I'd agree. Obviously nearly every team in the league would take a guy like that as a middle six center, but there's going to be a bidding war for him and the Blues are never the team to win a bidding war for a top free agent.

I think it's more likely we go for a youngish guy with potential like @HighNote said or perhaps a veteran who they can buy low on. Even Lindholm might be a bit too much in terms of contract value and length but if you can get him at a bargain price it's worth looking into. Zacha would be a great fit but I assume him and Pasta are close and doubt Boston wants to piss him off considering how important he is to that team.

Honestly ROR would be a great fit assuming he's ok being a 3C and special teams specialist but not sure he'd be up for that. I feel like that Nashville group might be motivated to run it back and prove they are better than last year.

Bennett is a dude who will signed by an up and comer, be vilified for being overpaid and then will randomly dominate a playoff round, get some DoPS scrutiny and troll with a clutch goal or two, making it all worth it. I personally wouldn't go over 6.5 million for him but that probably won't be enough, so I don't think we get him.

Tavares or Nelson will probably cup chase with Carolina or Colorado but those two are guys I am fine overpaying for short-term deals like Pavelski. Granlund stays with the Finnish allstar team in Dallas IMO, so I'm not even thinking him.

I keep coming back to Zacha or Mittelstadt. Boston has them, Lindholm and Geekie at center, limited cap and a very clear need to rebuild. In a vacuum Mitts makes more sense, but his weird season and trade give me major pause; Zacha, IMO makes the most sense. limited trade protection, history with Monty, strong on the forecheck, a guy who is a 2c stopgap until Dvorsky is ready. If McLeod doesn't want out, shop our first + for Zacha.

 

[Drubilly]

My first choice would be be McLeod but I wouldn’t be upset if Lindholm is the guy. I’m envisioning Army using his warlock powers to influence the Bruins brass: “I like Lindholm the player but that contract is horrendous! I’ll tell you what, if you include the #7 pick we’ll take his contract of your hands. Deal.”

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'd personally have Bennett's value around 5.5-6.5. I don't think that signs him, I'm be willing to do something like Stastny of 7 for 4 years, but also don't think that gets it done. I think Lindholm is way too much of a risk, less term and I would be on board.

I'm not trading Kyrou for McLeod unless it's a more complicated deal or we have some free agent signing locked up as a Kyrou replacement, but if he's available, he does make plenty of sense.

 

[Majorityof1]

My first choice would be be McLeod but I wouldn’t be upset if Lindholm is the guy. I’m envisioning Army using his warlock powers to influence the Bruins brass: “I like Lindholm the player but that contract is horrendous! I’ll tell you what, if you include the #7 pick we’ll take his contract of your hands. Deal.”

Why would Lindholm waive his NMC for us? To play with the coach he had for 20 games and played poorly under?

I guess maybe if he doesn't want a rebuild and no contender wants him, we are further along than Boston. But there is no gurantee players with trade protection would want to come here.

 

[Drubilly]

Why would Lindholm waive his NMC for us? To play with the coach he had for 20 games and played poorly under?

I guess maybe if he doesn't want a rebuild and no contender wants him, we are further along than Boston. But there is no gurantee players with trade protection would want to come here.

Why the f would he stay in Boston?

 

[bleedblue1223]

If someone like Pageau is available, I think he could be a sneaky good stop gap option. Put him on the 2nd or 3rd line depending on chemistry and he could combine with Sunny to give us a good defensive line for late-game situations.

My goal is someone that can score 40+ points, win 50%+ of faceoffs, and be a solid 2-way player. In an ideal world it's a Dylan Larkin type, but at the same time, it won't take that much to upgrade our 2/3 C combo of Schenn and Sunny. I do think Sunny played very well for what he does, but we just need more offense and for Sunny to go back to more of a 4th line role where he plays up in certain situations.

 

[Majorityof1]

Why the f would he stay in Boston?

Bigger market, more sponsorship opportunities, playing with a top 5 wing, not having to move (which is big if he has kids of a certain age) .

Besides, just because he wants out of Boston doesn't mean he will come here. He might think if he plays better this season with Pasta, he can have more choices next year.

 

[Beauterham]

On the trade forum there was a (debunked) rumor that Montreal would be interested in Lafrenière. It made me think: he would really fit well with the Blues and if the Rangers are willing to move him I'd explore that (he's an RFA and it might be difficult for the Rangers to give him the contract he wants, sounds a bit like the Buchnevich scenario to me). We could move Holloway to 2C and play him on 2LW.

 

[bleedblue1223]

On the trade forum there was a (debunked) rumor that Montreal would be interested in Lafrenière. It made me think: he would really fit well with the Blues and if the Rangers are willing to move him I'd explore that (he's an RFA and it might be difficult for the Rangers to give him the contract he wants, sounds a bit like the Buchnevich scenario to me). We could move Holloway to 2C and play him on 2LW.

They already signed him to a 7 year extension at 7.45M per year, that starts next season. I really don't have any interest in him based on what he's shown so far.

 

[SirPaste]

On the trade forum there was a (debunked) rumor that Montreal would be interested in Lafrenière. It made me think: he would really fit well with the Blues and if the Rangers are willing to move him I'd explore that (he's an RFA and it might be difficult for the Rangers to give him the contract he wants, sounds a bit like the Buchnevich scenario to me). We could move Holloway to 2C and play him on 2LW.

We don't need another winger, Holloway looked bad at C, we need a center. Especially with the contract he brings its a big no thank you from me.

 

[BadgersandBlues]

I think Bennett either resigns with Florida for a bit of a hometown discount (As other players there already have), or he goes to an up and coming team willing to massively overpay him for Rings in the room/Guy who shows everyone how to win in the playoffs, like an Anaheim. I do mean overpay, like 7x9.5 or something wild.

 

[Beauterham]

We don't need another winger, Holloway looked bad at C, we need a center. Especially with the contract he brings its a big no thank you from me.

We tried Holloway at C for a couple of games in the first half of the season before the 4-nation break. Literally almost everyone on the team looked bad. He's been a C all the way through college and has played C for the Oilers. I have a lot more confidence in Holloway being able to play C than Buchnevich. If we're not able to get another 2C in free agency or a trade I'd explore that option during pre season.

They already signed him to a 7 year extension at 7.45M per year, that starts next season. I really don't have any interest in him based on what he's shown so far.

I think the problem is that we automatically look at him 'as that 1st overall pick who never developed into what he was projected as' and based on that I agree he might not sound interesting, however if we just view him as a random young 50-ish point winger with still a bit of leeway in his development then it already feels a bit different. On overall level I put him somewhat above Neighbours and somewhat under Holloway. 7.45 million might feel like it's on the high end, but as the cap increases the next couple of seasons it might not be too bad. Rangers have cap issues and might be persuaded to move him if they can't move guys like Kreider or Zibanejad to gain some room at the cap. If Army can leverage that to get him at something slightly below his actual value, like he did with Buchnevich, I'd be very interested. I'm not prepared to pay a premium price for him though.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I think Bennett either resigns with Florida for a bit of a hometown discount (As other players there already have), or he goes to an up and coming team willing to massively overpay him for Rings in the room/Guy who shows everyone how to win in the playoffs, like an Anaheim. I do mean overpay, like 7x9.5 or something wild.

Yeah, I think most likely he stays in Florida, they have the space. If he doesn't stay, then he'll go for max money.

 

[SirPaste]

Value of: Post in thread 'Auston Matthews'

Monday at 1:13 PM

It doesn’t. That’s wishful thinking. If he only wants 1 team that won’t give up anything then you keep him.

And have him continue to eat away at the culture by throwing his teammates under the bus for his chronic playoff failures?

This is a toxic relationship for both sides now and only a trade can fix it. The Leafs will lose that trade in the short-term, yes, but it’s worth it if Toronto ever wants to win more than respect in the handshake line.

If the Blues were to offer Schenn, Buchnevich and Bolduc for Matthews and Kampf as an example, Berube would finally have some...

• BeranekAndNeck

lol got a kick out of this, I would do this in a heartbeat

 

[bleedblue1223]

Value of: Post in thread 'Auston Matthews'

Monday at 1:13 PM

It doesn’t. That’s wishful thinking. If he only wants 1 team that won’t give up anything then you keep him.

And have him continue to eat away at the culture by throwing his teammates under the bus for his chronic playoff failures?

This is a toxic relationship for both sides now and only a trade can fix it. The Leafs will lose that trade in the short-term, yes, but it’s worth it if Toronto ever wants to win more than respect in the handshake line.

If the Blues were to offer Schenn, Buchnevich and Bolduc for Matthews and Kampf as an example, Berube would finally have some...

• BeranekAndNeck

lol got a kick out of this, I would do this in a heartbeat

Yeah, you take the "risk" that San Jose took with Thornton. Maybe he never figures it out in the playoffs, but I'd be more than happy to take him on and take that journey on.

 

[The Note]

Value of: Post in thread 'Auston Matthews'

Monday at 1:13 PM

It doesn’t. That’s wishful thinking. If he only wants 1 team that won’t give up anything then you keep him.

And have him continue to eat away at the culture by throwing his teammates under the bus for his chronic playoff failures?

This is a toxic relationship for both sides now and only a trade can fix it. The Leafs will lose that trade in the short-term, yes, but it’s worth it if Toronto ever wants to win more than respect in the handshake line.

If the Blues were to offer Schenn, Buchnevich and Bolduc for Matthews and Kampf as an example, Berube would finally have some...

• BeranekAndNeck

lol got a kick out of this, I would do this in a heartbeat

I’m sure most of us would because it’s highway robbery.