2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

Hard to say without knowing what Yzerman is looking for.

If he is looking to try and fill the center void Larkin would leave in the short and long term, then I'd try to focus the deal around Schenn and Dvorsky. That's a veteran leader who can mentor their young players while also acting as a minutes shield to prevent their up and coming young center group from drowning over the next couple years. And then Dvorsky adds another damn good center prospect. I like their 2 big center prospects in a world where they just need to fill in the middle 6 C group behind Larkin (or get one to become a 1A/1B with Larkin). But those two aren't enough if Larkin is out of the organization. Adding Dvorsky would very much help that.

Schenn + Dvorsky alone shouldn't/wouldn't be enough to get it done. From there I'd be asking what Yzerman is looking to accomplish this summer and attempting to help complete or facilitate those goals. Is there a contract he regrets and wants to move to create cap space? Name the contract and I'll take it. Does he like one of our non-essential roster players (Joseph, Texier, Walker, Torpo, Sunny, Leddy, Kessel, Tucker)? Great, have at him. Is he looking for a pick? This year's 1st is on the table. If this is a trade coming together post-draft, then the 2026 lottery-protected 1st would be on the table.

Push comes to shove I'd do Schenn, Dvorsky, and a 1st for Larkin. If the 3rd asset beyond Schenn/Dvorsky is the 1st rounder, then I'd be looking to get some kind of pick back in return and/or get them to take Texier (or Joseph) off our hands.

If they aren't interested in Schenn and/or Dvorsky, then I'm trying to figure out what they are interested in and going from there. Thomas is off the table completely. Kyrou and Holloway are nearly off the table. Buch isn't waiving a full NTC to go there, so he's functionally off the table. Any other forward would be on the table as the NHL piece, but the rest of my offer would depend on which NHL player was involved. Parayko wouldn't make sense for them and I doubt they would want Broberg given their glut of 22 year old LHD (Edvinsson, Wallinder, and S Buium). But any D we have besides those two would be on the table as an NHL piece in the deal.

And if they want pure futures, then I'd look to trade Schenn somewhere on his trade list for pure futures and then flip those futures plus some of our existing futures for Larkin.

This is one of the few times I think I would more than happily offer far more than you for a player.

nearly any combination of the following would be a done deal IMO

Buchnevich
neighbors
Dvorsky
Schenn
2025 1st
2026 1st
Texier ( cap reasons if need be )
Joseph ( cap reasons if need be )

I can't imagine them wanting anyone else off our roster that I would be willing to part with. Holloway/Kyrou/Thomas/Bolduc/Snuggy Broberg imo are all off the table.
 
Hard to say without knowing what Yzerman is looking for.

If he is looking to try and fill the center void Larkin would leave in the short and long term, then I'd try to focus the deal around Schenn and Dvorsky. That's a veteran leader who can mentor their young players while also acting as a minutes shield to prevent their up and coming young center group from drowning over the next couple years. And then Dvorsky adds another damn good center prospect. I like their 2 big center prospects in a world where they just need to fill in the middle 6 C group behind Larkin (or get one to become a 1A/1B with Larkin). But those two aren't enough if Larkin is out of the organization. Adding Dvorsky would very much help that.

Schenn + Dvorsky alone shouldn't/wouldn't be enough to get it done. From there I'd be asking what Yzerman is looking to accomplish this summer and attempting to help complete or facilitate those goals. Is there a contract he regrets and wants to move to create cap space? Name the contract and I'll take it. Does he like one of our non-essential roster players (Joseph, Texier, Walker, Torpo, Sunny, Leddy, Kessel, Tucker)? Great, have at him. Is he looking for a pick? This year's 1st is on the table. If this is a trade coming together post-draft, then the 2026 lottery-protected 1st would be on the table.

Push comes to shove I'd do Schenn, Dvorsky, and a 1st for Larkin. If the 3rd asset beyond Schenn/Dvorsky is the 1st rounder, then I'd be looking to get some kind of pick back in return and/or get them to take Texier (or Joseph) off our hands.

If they aren't interested in Schenn and/or Dvorsky, then I'm trying to figure out what they are interested in and going from there. Thomas is off the table completely. Kyrou and Holloway are nearly off the table. Buch isn't waiving a full NTC to go there, so he's functionally off the table. Any other forward would be on the table as the NHL piece, but the rest of my offer would depend on which NHL player was involved. Parayko wouldn't make sense for them and I doubt they would want Broberg given their glut of 22 year old LHD (Edvinsson, Wallinder, and S Buium). But any D we have besides those two would be on the table as an NHL piece in the deal.

And if they want pure futures, then I'd look to trade Schenn somewhere on his trade list for pure futures and then flip those futures plus some of our existing futures for Larkin.

When I look at what Detroit’s doing I feel Mo Seider will be the elder statesman of the group: (but I’d imagine they’d want to retain Larkin during the process)

This year they’ve given over 20 min a game to 21 yo Edvinsson - they just went through three years of this with Mo, and you’d guess that ASP will get similar treatment the coming years. Lots of fresh to the nhl top 4 defensive minutes.

At forward Kasper got his first season done, Lucas Raymond just turned 23, they’ve got a pile of young forwards to get into the lineup along with all their own picks this year. Lots of nhl debuts on the horizon.

So in considering all that along with Larkins full trade protection: the only way I see him traded is if he demands it and they elect to meet his demand. Maybe Detroit wants to turn the room over to the group that will be in charge.

If this is the way things go I think somebody will be getting a discount. Larkin will be able to pick. Really hard for Detroit to get fair value in a circumstance like that.

I wouldn’t predict that he would demand a trade but I can see where he’s coming from if he did. He’s going to spend all his good years developing his replacements. He’s staring at years of 21-23 year olds on the blue line and fresh scrawny rookies in the top 9, possibly multiple rookie goaltenders.

Edit: just wanted to add I recall mid season we had a rumor that died fast that was around Larkin and a trade demand…
 
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