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We have 3 upcoming games against the Preds. That's the issue with reporting scouts, it's not always trade related.
2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.
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Novak and Sisson would be the Preds we are most likely checking out. More likely Novak I’d think.
stl76
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Another C off the market in Jake Evans. Re-signed in Montreal for 4 years.
Reading some trade boards around the league and the best thing that stood out was Edmonton fans pining over Binnington the way Leafs fans used to for Parayko.
I'm not sure I pull the trigger on Binnington though, especially to Edmonton. They really don't have anything that excites me, return wise. Goalies historically don't garnish a heavy return anyways.
As much as I would like see the Blues make the playoffs. This isn't a team that is going to make it far into the playoffs. Next year, if we bring everyone back, the core gets another year older. So the question becomes do we go for the playoffs this year, shuffle the deck and inject some youth next year and keep pushing. Or do we try to sell and add more chips to the youth movement? I know what I would do but who the hell knows what Army is thinking.
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Renting Boesser pro and con list
Like pure naked rental.
Pros:
Our defense is absolutely stacked. A team could go years before it is as fortunate as we currently are.
Our first is probably more valuable than any of the other bidders picks meaning we probably have a fast lane to securing the deal.
Our only true hole in the roster is top 6 scoring from the right side so let’s fill it. Snuggerud will have icetime too. Probably unwise to be like hey college guy good luck with these 17 minutes per game of icetime btw playoff hockey is rough good luck break a leg.
This draft is “weak” and we’re too good to get a bad draft pick so f it.
We could perhaps retain assets if Vancouver would take Texier. Texier plus first for Boesser and a third?
We could attempt to flip Boesser after the postseason for a late round pick. We also could attempt to sign him.
I think giving the team a preview of a full top 6 would give the front office the understanding of its potential.
I understand why we shouldn’t do this. I’d vote yes. It’s kinda degen but also you can either take shots or not.
Cons:
People don’t want to have fun.
It’s “irresponsible”
Other lame reasons I don’t care about
Like pure naked rental.
Pros:
Our defense is absolutely stacked. A team could go years before it is as fortunate as we currently are.
Our first is probably more valuable than any of the other bidders picks meaning we probably have a fast lane to securing the deal.
Our only true hole in the roster is top 6 scoring from the right side so let’s fill it. Snuggerud will have icetime too. Probably unwise to be like hey college guy good luck with these 17 minutes per game of icetime btw playoff hockey is rough good luck break a leg.
This draft is “weak” and we’re too good to get a bad draft pick so f it.
We could perhaps retain assets if Vancouver would take Texier. Texier plus first for Boesser and a third?
We could attempt to flip Boesser after the postseason for a late round pick. We also could attempt to sign him.
I think giving the team a preview of a full top 6 would give the front office the understanding of its potential.
I understand why we shouldn’t do this. I’d vote yes. It’s kinda degen but also you can either take shots or not.
Cons:
People don’t want to have fun.
It’s “irresponsible”
Other lame reasons I don’t care about
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Dude, I was totally thinking Boeser and was gonna post it, but my flame suppression system has been acting up lately. The other term for it got the ol’ PS censor.
I understand the appeal but trading for Boeser would be textbook bad asset management. We aren't even in playoff spot at this point. Even if we do make the playoffs Boeser isn't the piece to put us over the top. I disagree with your assessment of our defense and I disagree with assessment about our biggest hole. We badly need a middle six center much more than a winger. I love Sunny but he isn't 3rd line material anymore. I just am not prepared to give up a mid round 1st pick, even in a weak draft, for a few months of Boeser. Blues have done a good job drafting in the middle and later parts of the 1st round over the years and that is a player that we have a decade of control.
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Our tank is saved, guys.
Logan Brown is on waivers.
Come on Army, you know you can't resist.
Logan Brown is on waivers.
Come on Army, you know you can't resist.
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Agree fully.
I think in real life I’d not actually do it. It’s easy to be an impulsive keyboard warrior.
Tuch would be what I’d do.
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The only way Boeser or any other rental works is if it's in some super complicated and unrealistic combo of deals where we trade someone like Kyrou for Dobson, and Boeser comes with an extension. I just don't see that happening. And while we are close to the playoffs, we also currently sit with the #10 pick. Yes, we could put lotto or top 10 protection on it, but I'd be surprised if we trade our 1st. Exceptions would be for a young NHL player that has years of control.
Army and Steen know that Ryan Reaves is just what this team needs to turn it all around.
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Hell no, there's no guarantee we're even gonna make the playoffs. Boeser's reported price is 1st + good prospect. Think Stenberg or Fischer. Horrible asset management.
JR says in his latest that we could buy, sell, or stand pat, but none of them seem likely. He does think there is a good chance that we either do or don’t trade Schenn.
I might eat donuts tomorrow morning. I might eat cereal. I might eat biscuits and gravy. If I do eat biscuits and gravy, the biscuits and gravy fans should be happy knowing I will treat it with respect. In the past 3 mornings I have eaten 3 breakfasts.
This isn’t unlike 3 years ago when for 3 days in a row I ate breakfast. I did eat eggs and bacon once and pancakes another day so it’s not exactly the same.
So, we’ll see what happens tomorrow morning. If I wind up picking donuts, don’t look for me to trade the cereal. And remember, the 3 options for tomorrow are different from those just a week ago.
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Sounds like lyrics to a Flaming Lips song.
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I’d take Boeser only if Vancouver gets desperate.
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Ryan McLeod Fun Facts
Did you know that during the Stanley cup finals, Ryan McLeod was promoted often to the second line where he helped Edmonton mount a thrilling comeback attempt, scoring 3 times in the second half of the series in this role.
His linemate was Dylan Holloway
Stay tuned for more Ryan McLeod fun facts!
You’ll never guess who he scored his first goal on.
Did you know that during the Stanley cup finals, Ryan McLeod was promoted often to the second line where he helped Edmonton mount a thrilling comeback attempt, scoring 3 times in the second half of the series in this role.
His linemate was Dylan Holloway
Stay tuned for more Ryan McLeod fun facts!
You’ll never guess who he scored his first goal on.
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It’s how JR’s latest article read:
LOS ANGELES — The St. Louis Blues would like to be in a playoff position heading into the NHL trade deadline on Friday.
Instead, they’re in a precarious position.
The Blues aren’t seen as buyers, they may not be sellers, and while standing pat seems to be the likely option, that’s no guarantee either.
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After making up some major ground in the Western Conference standings, they head into their game against the LA Kings on Wednesday within reach of the second wild card, and that has brought on some uncertainty this week.
The headline has been Blues captain Brayden Schenn, who has a full no-trade clause and controls his future.
General manager Doug Armstrong hasn’t been shopping him necessarily but has been fielding interest. But after seeing his club go 5-1-1 in its last seven games, the GM is said to be on the fence about moving his captain, which is why Schenn fell from No. 11 to No. 31 in Chris Johnston’s trade board at The Athletic Tuesday.
The problem: What kind of message would it be to the players to implore them to go on a run and get into the playoff picture, and then when they do, pull the rug out from under them? And what kind of experience could be lost for players such as Jake Neighbours and Zack Bolduc, who’ve never been in the playoffs?
The probability of the Blues making the playoffs is just 10 percent according to Dom Luszczyszyn’s model. However, Moneypuck.com gives them a 26.4 percent chance of qualifying.
Regardless of how the Blues view their odds, the price for Schenn is reportedly high, which checks out with Armstrong’s history.
A year ago, Pavel Buchnevich was one of the top trade targets at the deadline, and Armstrong admitted afterward that he was asking a mother lode for the winger. The GM didn’t get it, so he held onto Buchnevich and re-signed him to a six-year, $48 million extension in the offseason.
Schenn’s situation, however, is a little different. He’s 33 years old with three years remaining on his contract ($6.5 million AAV), whereas Buchnevich is 29 and had just this season left on his deal before his extension kicks in in 2025-26.
The Blues aren’t deciding whether to re-sign Schenn like they were Buchnevich. They are simply deciding whether it’s worth keeping him for the playoff push — and beyond — or take advantage of the market interest.
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The Toronto Maple Leafs have done some due diligence on Schenn, checking in with those who watch the Blues play regularly, and The Athletic also analyzed the trade fit. The New Jersey Devils could be another possible suitor, especially now with an injury to Jack Hughes.
So it’s shaping up to be a decision based on whether the Blues are wowed by an offer for Schenn, and if not, they’ll have no problem hanging onto him and trying to sneak into a wild-card spot.
At various points this season, management’s inner circle has been telling others they believe this is a playoff-caliber club, and with ownership spending to the $88.5 million salary cap, qualifying for the postseason would help justify that.
The Blues could keep Schenn and still miss the playoffs, but currently, no teams around them in the standings are playing well. The Calgary Flames were 3-5-2 in their last 10 games before Tuesday’s action, while the Vancouver Canucks are 4-5-1 and the Utah Hockey Club is 6-4.
The Blues also have the easiest schedule in the NHL the rest of the way, according to Tankathon.com. They have 20 games remaining, and the combined points percentage of those teams is .521. Only seven of the final 20 games are against opponents in a playoff position and two of those are against the Kings, whom the Blues beat 4-1 last week.
When looking at the position the Blues are in at the trade deadline, some are comparing it to the 2017-2018 season. The Blues were one point out of a playoff spot when they dealt Paul Stastny to the Winnipeg Jets for a first-round pick, a fourth-round pick and prospect Erik Foley.
It was surprising, but there were three distinct differences between that scenario and the current one.
The Blues traded Paul Stastny to the Jets for picks and a prospect at the 2018 deadline. (Jim McIsaac / Getty Images)
For starters, the Blues had made six consecutive postseason appearances at that time, not like now when they’re in jeopardy of missing out for a third straight year. Secondly, Stastny was in the last year of a four-year, $28 million contract, so he was a pending unrestricted free agent. Finally, the team was 0-5-1 in its previous six games and had been shut out 4-0 in back-to-back games before the trade, so things were headed in the wrong direction.
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The Blues did eventually miss the playoffs by one point, and Stastny could’ve made the difference, but the circumstances are not completely alike.
If anything, the results of the Stastny trade illustrate that things may not materialize as teams hope. The Blues got the Jets’ first-round pick (No. 29 overall) and traded that pick, along with a third-rounder, to Toronto to move up four spots to No. 25. They took forward Dominick Bokk, whom they later packaged to the Carolina Hurricanes in the deal for Justin Faulk. Also, Foley dealt with concussion symptoms and never played in the NHL.
Whichever way the Blues decide to proceed with Schenn, they’re going to handle the situation with care.
It was Armstrong who A) hand-picked Schenn as the team’s current captain and B) worked out an eight-year, $52 million contract with Schenn’s agent, Ben Hankinson, after Schenn left Newport Sports Management.
Hankinson is also the agent of Blues GM-in-waiting Alexander Steen and the two have a great relationship. So if you’re a Schenn fan, rest assured that if the Blues decide to approach him about waiving his no-trade clause, he’ll receive the utmost respect.
Meanwhile, the Blues have two other pending UFAs heading into the deadline.
Radek Faksa, 31, is in the final year of his contract ($3.25 million AAV). He’s been a decent pickup from the Dallas Stars, but he’s been penalty-prone lately. He could be of interest to a contending team as a fourth-line center but isn’t likely to bring much in return.
Ryan Suter, 40, is playing out the one-year deal he signed with the Blues last summer ($775,000 plus bonuses). He’s played in all 62 games this season and could help a club as a third-pair or depth defenseman, but also won’t yield much.
If the Blues win Wednesday in LA, they’ll likely keep Faksa and Suter, and the rest of their roster, intact at the deadline. They’ll find out if it’s enough to make the playoffs — a scenario that looked a lot less likely just a week or so ago
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I get it. It’s boring. I was jamming on Aces High by Iron Maiden and laughed at how dumb the lyrics are. It’s just a sequence of events.It’s how JR’s latest article read:
LOS ANGELES — The St. Louis Blues would like to be in a playoff position heading into the NHL trade deadline on Friday.
Instead, they’re in a precarious position.
The Blues aren’t seen as buyers, they may not be sellers, and while standing pat seems to be the likely option, that’s no guarantee either.
ADVERTISEMENT
After making up some major ground in the Western Conference standings, they head into their game against the LA Kings on Wednesday within reach of the second wild card, and that has brought on some uncertainty this week.
The headline has been Blues captain Brayden Schenn, who has a full no-trade clause and controls his future.
General manager Doug Armstrong hasn’t been shopping him necessarily but has been fielding interest. But after seeing his club go 5-1-1 in its last seven games, the GM is said to be on the fence about moving his captain, which is why Schenn fell from No. 11 to No. 31 in Chris Johnston’s trade board at The Athletic Tuesday.
The problem: What kind of message would it be to the players to implore them to go on a run and get into the playoff picture, and then when they do, pull the rug out from under them? And what kind of experience could be lost for players such as Jake Neighbours and Zack Bolduc, who’ve never been in the playoffs?
The probability of the Blues making the playoffs is just 10 percent according to Dom Luszczyszyn’s model. However, Moneypuck.com gives them a 26.4 percent chance of qualifying.
Regardless of how the Blues view their odds, the price for Schenn is reportedly high, which checks out with Armstrong’s history.
A year ago, Pavel Buchnevich was one of the top trade targets at the deadline, and Armstrong admitted afterward that he was asking a mother lode for the winger. The GM didn’t get it, so he held onto Buchnevich and re-signed him to a six-year, $48 million extension in the offseason.
Schenn’s situation, however, is a little different. He’s 33 years old with three years remaining on his contract ($6.5 million AAV), whereas Buchnevich is 29 and had just this season left on his deal before his extension kicks in in 2025-26.
The Blues aren’t deciding whether to re-sign Schenn like they were Buchnevich. They are simply deciding whether it’s worth keeping him for the playoff push — and beyond — or take advantage of the market interest.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Toronto Maple Leafs have done some due diligence on Schenn, checking in with those who watch the Blues play regularly, and The Athletic also analyzed the trade fit. The New Jersey Devils could be another possible suitor, especially now with an injury to Jack Hughes.
So it’s shaping up to be a decision based on whether the Blues are wowed by an offer for Schenn, and if not, they’ll have no problem hanging onto him and trying to sneak into a wild-card spot.
At various points this season, management’s inner circle has been telling others they believe this is a playoff-caliber club, and with ownership spending to the $88.5 million salary cap, qualifying for the postseason would help justify that.
The Blues could keep Schenn and still miss the playoffs, but currently, no teams around them in the standings are playing well. The Calgary Flames were 3-5-2 in their last 10 games before Tuesday’s action, while the Vancouver Canucks are 4-5-1 and the Utah Hockey Club is 6-4.
The Blues also have the easiest schedule in the NHL the rest of the way, according to Tankathon.com. They have 20 games remaining, and the combined points percentage of those teams is .521. Only seven of the final 20 games are against opponents in a playoff position and two of those are against the Kings, whom the Blues beat 4-1 last week.
When looking at the position the Blues are in at the trade deadline, some are comparing it to the 2017-2018 season. The Blues were one point out of a playoff spot when they dealt Paul Stastny to the Winnipeg Jets for a first-round pick, a fourth-round pick and prospect Erik Foley.
It was surprising, but there were three distinct differences between that scenario and the current one.
The Blues traded Paul Stastny to the Jets for picks and a prospect at the 2018 deadline. (Jim McIsaac / Getty Images)
For starters, the Blues had made six consecutive postseason appearances at that time, not like now when they’re in jeopardy of missing out for a third straight year. Secondly, Stastny was in the last year of a four-year, $28 million contract, so he was a pending unrestricted free agent. Finally, the team was 0-5-1 in its previous six games and had been shut out 4-0 in back-to-back games before the trade, so things were headed in the wrong direction.
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The Blues did eventually miss the playoffs by one point, and Stastny could’ve made the difference, but the circumstances are not completely alike.
If anything, the results of the Stastny trade illustrate that things may not materialize as teams hope. The Blues got the Jets’ first-round pick (No. 29 overall) and traded that pick, along with a third-rounder, to Toronto to move up four spots to No. 25. They took forward Dominick Bokk, whom they later packaged to the Carolina Hurricanes in the deal for Justin Faulk. Also, Foley dealt with concussion symptoms and never played in the NHL.
Whichever way the Blues decide to proceed with Schenn, they’re going to handle the situation with care.
It was Armstrong who A) hand-picked Schenn as the team’s current captain and B) worked out an eight-year, $52 million contract with Schenn’s agent, Ben Hankinson, after Schenn left Newport Sports Management.
Hankinson is also the agent of Blues GM-in-waiting Alexander Steen and the two have a great relationship. So if you’re a Schenn fan, rest assured that if the Blues decide to approach him about waiving his no-trade clause, he’ll receive the utmost respect.
Meanwhile, the Blues have two other pending UFAs heading into the deadline.
Radek Faksa, 31, is in the final year of his contract ($3.25 million AAV). He’s been a decent pickup from the Dallas Stars, but he’s been penalty-prone lately. He could be of interest to a contending team as a fourth-line center but isn’t likely to bring much in return.
Ryan Suter, 40, is playing out the one-year deal he signed with the Blues last summer ($775,000 plus bonuses). He’s played in all 62 games this season and could help a club as a third-pair or depth defenseman, but also won’t yield much.
If the Blues win Wednesday in LA, they’ll likely keep Faksa and Suter, and the rest of their roster, intact at the deadline. They’ll find out if it’s enough to make the playoffs — a scenario that looked a lot less likely just a week or so ago
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I shall Die With My Boots On!!!!It’s definitely not Wasted Years if you’re going to Run To The Hills. Never Fear The Dark because The Trooper is near
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