2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

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Can't say I'm eager to trade for him. I'm confident that Army and our front office are more in tune with what is actually happening in Vancouver than the media (and us), so I feel fairly confident that they would be making an informed decision about the personality joining the room. If they are comfortable adding him into the room from that standpoint, then I would trust them.

But he just doesn't remotely fit the rest of our core's timeline. I'm not convinced he turns us into a contender this year and we could still very well miss the playoffs with him on the roster. He turns 32 in March, so I have a really hard time committing $8M a year to his age 32 through 36 seasons if we aren't taking a legit shot at a Cup in his age 31 season. I'm fine going after guys in their mid-late 20s, but I'm not wild about spending high value assets to get a soon-to-be 32 year old given where we are as an organization.
It really is a scenario where there’s a lot of downside as you’re showing.

And on top of that: would Vancouver lose a trade to a team that they’re racing? I’d have to guess no. From their perspective it would feel like throwing in the towel and letting us move on past them.
 
Sure, but we are incredibly far away from that being a reality. Buch is playing the 2nd most minutes against the 2nd highest quality of competition of all Blues forwards. The production hasn't been good enough, but he's 4th on the team in goals, points, and points per game. He's 3rd in even strength goals, and 5th in even strength goals. He's not remotely close to being a complimentary 3rd line player. I think there is a big difference between being a productive, veteran, complimentary player and being a 3rd liner. I will be extremely surprised if he's playing less than 17 minutes a night over the next several seasons.
Not yet.
 
Considering where the Blues are in their competitive cycle, and the pieces we would be giving up, I'm not interested in Miller or EP. If we get them for a lot less than what I expect then sure, why not, but both have major flaws in my mind. One of them is already 31 and wouldn't get us over the hump to being a real contender this year or next, the other one would cost us Dvo +, and this fued has me hearing more negative things about both than positive. No thanks.

Regarding Buch, we aren't trading him anytime soon. The hope is that he plays well enough that the steeply rising cap makes his contract look fine. It's still very possible $8 million for a guy like Buch looks good in a couple of seasons. He hasn't been as affective this year or last, but he's only 29 still. Would have been nice to deal him for 2 1st rounders last TDL, but who knows what the market for him was.
 
I would be interested in Miller if we could get him for basically saad, Tex, top 5 protected 1st, and prospect who isn’t one of our top 5 or so prospects. Not sure we could get him for that, but I do that and don’t look back.
 
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The one thing to remember about Buch is we yo-yo’ed him as a center. So this year was always going to be at least a little rough for him.
Buchnevich is a self-starting professional the same way Steen was. He exactly the type of tone-setter a young player needs to model his approach to the game after. I expect him to look better with a more consistent role as a winger, but he signed that contract on faith that the Blues would get competitive again. He agreed to be part of the leadership for a rebuilding team. He was willing to move to center for the good of the team, to his individual detriment.

I think he’s earned a little grace and a little patience.
 
Buchnevich is a self-starting professional the same way Steen was. He exactly the type of tone-setter a young player needs to model his approach to the game after. I expect him to look better with a more consistent role as a winger, but he signed that contract on faith that the Blues would get competitive again. He agreed to be part of the leadership for a rebuilding team. He was willing to move to center for the good of the team, to his individual detriment.

I think he’s earned a little grace and a little patience.

It's been months since he played center, maybe he should start looking like he's putting effort into the game? Ya his season sucked but guess what, he's not playing center anymore so there is no reason for him to still suck so much ass. I get not scoring but the almost complete lack of visible effort is what is upsetting everyone.
 
Buchnevich is a self-starting professional the same way Steen was. He exactly the type of tone-setter a young player needs to model his approach to the game after. I expect him to look better with a more consistent role as a winger, but he signed that contract on faith that the Blues would get competitive again. He agreed to be part of the leadership for a rebuilding team. He was willing to move to center for the good of the team, to his individual detriment.

I think he’s earned a little grace and a little patience.
For now.
 
Google has its little ai comment on your google search now. I had typed “blues necas rumor” into the search because I was trying to find the time stamp of the rumor last off season from an article.

Anyway

This is what googles ai replied to my search. It seems it is a hockey analyst. FWIW I’d rather wait for Snuggerud. Seems more fun.

trading for him would complete the St. Louis Blues for 2024-25”
 
Google has its little ai comment on your google search now. I had typed “blues necas rumor” into the search because I was trying to find the time stamp of the rumor last off season from an article.

Anyway

This is what googles ai replied to my search. It seems it is a hockey analyst. FWIW I’d rather wait for Snuggerud. Seems more fun.

trading for him would complete the St. Louis Blues for 2024-25”

Funny to think but some team will eventually replace their human GM with an A.I. who knows it might actually be an improvement right now for some teams like Buffalo or the Oilers lol.
 

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